Hi iv got a r850r and two up its perfect for us, not to heavy, nice seat height nowhere near as high as a gs ,economical and so far reliable the r1150r is more common but same dry weight and low milage ones on flea bay are pretty cheap iv fitted avon distanzia tyres and on gravel it seems ok. not been in any deep stuff yet so dont know how 17" front wheel will cope but overall easy to live with .Rob
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