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5 Nov 2017
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The biggest drawback with the GP 450 is the 5 speed gearbox, the 600 engine should address that without adding too much weight to the bike..
I don't really care for the 450s tiny clutch, but the 600 will also address that.. I would consider purchasing the 600 if they were not so darned expensive, If I sold my 2 640s I would be lucky to get enough money to cover half the price of a CCM...
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The biggest drawback with the GP 450 is the 5 speed gearbox, the 600 engine should address that without adding too much weight to the bike..
I don't really care for the 450s tiny clutch, but the 600 will also address that.. I would consider purchasing the 600 if they were not so darned expensive, If I sold my 2 640s I would be lucky to get enough money to cover half the price of a CCM...
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They not cheap bikes hey, apparently the later GP450s do have a 6sp gearbox!
But I’m a little wary of ending up stuck IF something breaks and CCM spares are likely to be harder to come by than one of the bigger manufacturers...
Have just been reading about the new KTM 390 Adventure and that might be just the ticket...
But going for a new bike then means that Carnet Deposit is significantly bigger too.
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They not cheap bikes hey, apparently the later GP450s do have a 6sp gearbox!
But I’m a little wary of ending up stuck IF something breaks and CCM spares are likely to be harder to come by than one of the bigger manufacturers...
Have just been reading about the new KTM 390 Adventure and that might be just the ticket...
But going for a new bike then means that Carnet Deposit is significantly bigger too.
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The 390 Duke is pretty affordable, brand new here at the bike shop they were less than $5000, but sadly a 390 A is not in the cards, at least for this year...
The KTM corner at the bike shows was pretty disappointing.. Not a mention of a 390 A, and the 790 A is still only a concept bike... I am fed up with the manufacturers focus on the Fat Pig adventure bikes... Overweight, overpriced, overpowered and fragile has being the trend for too many years now, but I guess as long as they are selling that will continue.. There has been a couple small displacement bikes come {Kawasaki, BMW} out but they are more street focused and likely will not hold up to any amount of off road pounding..
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The 390 Duke is pretty affordable, brand new here at the bike shop they were less than $5000, but sadly a 390 A is not in the cards, at least for this year...
The KTM corner at the bike shows was pretty disappointing.. Not a mention of a 390 A, and the 790 A is still only a concept bike... I am fed up with the manufacturers focus on the Fat Pig adventure bikes... Overweight, overpriced, overpowered and fragile has being the trend for too many years now, but I guess as long as they are selling that will continue.. There has been a couple small displacement bikes come {Kawasaki, BMW} out but they are more street focused and likely will not hold up to any amount of off road pounding..
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Agreed!
I do think manufacturers are ‘missing a trick’ and there a big gap in the market which I thought he new (concept) 390adventue would/will fill perfectly.
More time I think about though I’m leaning towards (if one day I decide to buy brand new) a Christini 450 AWD Explorer. And use that as a base...
http://www.christini.com/bikes/christini-awd-450
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