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Hi guys,
I planned to ride the western BAM and OSR this year from Ulan Bator (shipping the bike from Germany), but because of my work had to cancel everything. So I will be up for the same project for 2014, most probably during starting mid july in Ulan Bator and meeting in Irkutsk with HUBB member Bubbla who will ride from Sweden.
I also plan, if possible to sell my bike in Magadan around first or second week of August. Otherwise, I will be looking to share a container for Germany, but ideally I will sell my bike there. I will have only 4 weeks for my trip. We will both be riding KTM Adventure 640.
I read in this post that someone wants to make it with a R80 BMW. I would strongly not recommend this bike. I rod in 2011 from Switzerland to Mongolia with a R100Gs, and had some troubles in Mongolia in the river crossing, although there were not deep (30-40cm), because the air intake is much too low compare to other bikes. For the BAM, this will not work for sure.
I initially planned to ride from UB to Magadan with a new set of K60 Heidenau tires. What do you think about it? I have good experience on paved road with them, last +10'000km, and on dirt road the back one gave up after only 5000km, but I have a heavy bike (R100GS PD) compare to the 640 ADV.
My concern is, if I can't sell the bike in Magadan, will need to ride back to some major city like irkutsk or Ulan Bator, and I will not be able to do this with the same set of tires. I don't like so much the idea of having to carry a set of tire all the way with me, but I doubt I can find new tires in Magadan....
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I rode the western BAM and nrf this summer.
If the old summer road is not possible ( nobody achieved it in 2013), then I wouldn't bother heading for Magadan. The nfr and road between Tynda and Yakutsk is in my opinion totally pointless.
The BAM on any flat twin is impossible if you're forced to divert onto the railway bridges. The motor is too wide for where you're forced to ride. And then there's the height of the air intake as already mentioned.
I would not use K60 tyres on the BAM/ nfr/ osr. Not aggressive enough. Buy new aggressive rubber in Irkutsk and if you're going to ride from Magadan back to civilisation, make sure you have had tyres sent there in advance. You won't find anything in Magadan nor Yakutsk.
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I want £8000 in the bank before I leave. If I leave the UK in April/may I'll have about £5000 and that's with selling a bike I don't want to. Think I'll ride up to nordcap instead and some shorter blasts about..
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I want £8000 in the bank before I leave. If I leave the UK in April/may I'll have about £5000 and that's with selling a bike I don't want to. Think I'll ride up to nordcap instead and some shorter blasts about..
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Well try it on 5k and take a credit card or something to make up the extra 3k if needed, the younger the better i say and alot can change in another year
I was living/working in Perth Oz working offshore and one dinner break whilst bored i started searching the internet looking at blogs ect ect and i said to myself i would do my bike test and then plan a trip around 2015.
I had a bad day at work in February on a Monday and 3 days later i jacked my job and was back in the UK, 6 weeks/3 bike tests later i was preparing my DRZ and getting visa's.
First time i rode my bike was to Dover, my bike would not fit through the back garden gate with the side bags on and i fell off leaving the back of my house as i never rode the bike with the side bags
You know whats best for you and you are a experienced traveler but i would live for now and not later in a sensible way
Life is to short
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Well try it on 5k and take a credit card or something to make up the extra 3k if needed, the younger the better i say and alot can change in another year
I was living/working in Perth Oz working offshore and one dinner break whilst bored i started searching the internet looking at blogs ect ect and i said to myself i would do my bike test and then plan a trip around 2015.
I had a bad day at work in February on a Monday and 3 days later i jacked my job and was back in the UK, 6 weeks/3 bike tests later i was preparing my DRZ and getting visa's.
First time i rode my bike was to Dover, my bike would not fit through the back garden gate with the side bags on and i fell off leaving the back of my house as i never rode the bike with the side bags
You know whats best for you and you are a experienced traveler but i would live for now and not later in a sensible way
Life is to short
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Wesley, you're dead right mate. And I am usually just like that. I've been travelling like that for the last 8 years. I've spent a fortune, owe a lot of money and have no career !!
Do I regret it... NOT FOR A SECOND
This time however, I refuse to use a credit card. I'm in the early stages of starting a welding/fabrication business and I have invested A LOT of cash in it. It's a long term plan to give me freedom to travel in the future. At the moment I'm working like a bloody dog for company's who make all the cash off my back. Screw them... I just need to be semi-sensible for 12-18 months to refill the war chest and not be scratching around on the dole when I get home..
I'll still be travelling next year but for the Magadan trip, I really want to make the most of it and be able to spend money on Vodka
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... and alot can change in another year ...
Life is to short
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Too right Wes ...
Something to think about Ted ... If you want to go to Magadan via the legendary Old Summer Road, go next year.
The single biggest challenge on that road is the Kyubeme River crossing right at the western end of it.
Its the bridge where Ewan and Charley were faffing about at and Claudio just climbed across the collapsed bridge and went to sleep in the abandoned village on the other side. Eventually the bikes were loaded up into their support trucks and driven over the next morning.
Well to cut a long story short, the collapsed bridge, which had been collapsed and derelict for 30 years, finally got swept away in spring floods last year. The remains of the old wooden bridge were pulled down in October last year and this year a new concrete pylon was planted in the middle of the river for a new concrete bridge to be completed by the end of next year.
So next summer is your last chance to do the Old Summer Road, complete with the full Kyubeme River crossing. Once there is a brand new concrete bridge over the hardest part, it wont feel the same.
If you are worried about costs, skip Turkey and other expensive close to home bits that you can do another time.
I am constantly putting up to date info on that part of the world, as well as historical pics of interest from the BAM and Road of Bones on the Sibirsky Extreme facebook page (link in sig line). It may be useful to follow it if you are planning to go to that part of the world.
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Jeeeezzzzzz !! A dilema.....
My timing sucks..
Thing is, If I go away for just 2-3 months I'll kick myself. I love to have a good six month trip every 2-3 years if possible. I only managed a 1 month and a 2 month trip last year and It just didn't scratch my itch. It's not enough time to unwind and lose yourself.
If I do this trip, it has to be a good 5-6 months.
NO MORE CREDIT CARDS
I'll go and sit on a step and think about it....:confused1:
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Jeeeezzzzzz !! A dilema.....
My timing sucks..
I'll go and sit on a step and think about it....:confused1:
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have cold  s ready for when i get to the UK and i can show photos of the great time that you should have been having
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go and walk around you house/ garage and sell all the crap that you haven't used for a year or more...someone out there wants it...that includes bikes...AND GO RIDE, this is what i'm doing right now
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Too right Wes ...
Something to think about Ted ... If you want to go to Magadan via the legendary Old Summer Road, go next year.
The single biggest challenge on that road is the Kyubeme River crossing right at the western end of it.
Its the bridge where Ewan and Charley were faffing about at and Claudio just climbed across the collapsed bridge and went to sleep in the abandoned village on the other side. Eventually the bikes were loaded up into their support trucks and driven over the next morning.
Well to cut a long story short, the collapsed bridge, which had been collapsed and derelict for 30 years, finally got swept away in spring floods last year. The remains of the old wooden bridge were pulled down in October last year and this year a new concrete pylon was planted in the middle of the river for a new concrete bridge to be completed by the end of next year.
So next summer is your last chance to do the Old Summer Road, complete with the full Kyubeme River crossing. Once there is a brand new concrete bridge over the hardest part, it wont feel the same.
If you are worried about costs, skip Turkey and other expensive close to home bits that you can do another time.
I am constantly putting up to date info on that part of the world, as well as historical pics of interest from the BAM and Road of Bones on the Sibirsky Extreme facebook page (link in sig line). It may be useful to follow it if you are planning to go to that part of the world.
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Somebody suggested it previously, so sorry for the repeat. Nobody will force you to ride the new bridge. You can still take the wet route.
My advice is: If travelling West > East, when you get to Tynda having completed the western BAM check the likelihood of the OSR being doable (weather/rain etc). If it's not, (like this year), I would seriously recommend not riding to Yakutsk via the M56, nor Magadan via the NFR.
For me, the western BAM (and Mongolia and the Altay/Pamirs before that) were real adventures with lots of great experiences. I found the M56 in the dry and the NFR in the wet to be the most forgettable and pointless motorcycle rides I've done in many a year.
( In joke: Had I had the displeasure of riding the M56 between Yakutsk and Tynda in the wet, I would be able to boast I'm a real dirty boy adventure biker and question whether others who have just finished the BAM actually did so, because their bikes are so "clean".   )
I can now "boast" I've done the road to Magadan (and I am claiming the silver patch...  ) and I'm sure my memory of the journey will develop a rosy tint, but if the OSR looks unlikely, I'd head straight for Vladivostok (assuming that's your final destination because you're freighting from there).
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The road from Tynda to Yakutsk and then on to the start or the old summer road is a ball ache, we did it in good weather but it was still boring. Took us about 3 days to do, I wouldn't want to do it in the rain!
But the old summer road is great and the Tenkinskaya track into Magadan is also very scenic.
It really depends on if you want to ride to Magadan or not, as we started from there we didnt have a choice but to ride the roads. Which was probably a good thing as you can't give up or turn back
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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted*
I want £8000 in the bank before I leave. If I leave the UK in April/may I'll have about £5000 and that's with selling a bike I don't want to. Think I'll ride up to nordcap instead and some shorter blasts about..
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He Ted,
I'm thinking of going back to my original plan for 2014......Morocco and Europe and recently that's evolved in Morocco and Nordkapp! April/May Morocco and June back home and enjoy local summer time and July/August Nordkapp and then subsequently October or so to Oz for a couple of months, where I still have a Landcruiser standing and waiting for me. So who knows.....
Cheers,
Noel
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We are sorting out a container to Vladivostok to be there next year mid July and then return early September.
5 places so far, you are welcome to jump in either way or both if you fancy.
Mark
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Good luck with the trip, you will have a fantastic time. Do the tenkinskaya trakt out of Magadan it's a nice ride.
We may bump into you in Tynda if we and you are lucky, should be there middle of August.
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We will go west to east on 2 KTM 640 Adv., good chance for a KTM mini meeting out there.
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Watch out you don't get overtaken by a Lada...
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