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Which ferry you planning on taking?
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Probably the one that's leaving next, once we arrive at Algeceiras: ideally to Tangier Med as getting into Moroc is more straight forward. Ceuta wasn't that bad from what I remember either though.
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hi,
it seems it coud be that I will also be in Gibraltar next week. I am currently in Granada for a few days, than moving to Malaga. I have to fix some cooling system problems with my bike, unfortunatly.
I woud really like to join, but i am not sure if i'm capable to go wherever you want to go. i have an old africa twin with more luggage then i hoped  . i have seen enough pavement ,so that's not why i want to go to morocco, but pure sand and dunes...don't know if that will work out for me. maybe if you give me a quick lesson
I took 2 courses of all-road riding before my departure. unfortunatly, the sand course was cancelled...
cya!
oh, and I still have pavement tires on. and they are almost finished...i still need new ones.
what do you recommend guys? buying tires here in spain? wich ones?
changing them in morocco i guess... (I did a lot already on bikes, but somehow, changing tires is something I only did once...)
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hi,
it seems it coud be that I will also be in Gibraltar next week. I am currently in Granada for a few days, than moving to Malaga. I have to fix some cooling system problems with my bike, unfortunatly.
I woud really like to join, but i am not sure if i'm capable to go wherever you want to go. i have an old africa twin with more luggage then i hoped . i have seen enough pavement ,so that's not why i want to go to morocco, but pure sand and dunes...don't know if that will work out for me. maybe if you give me a quick lesson
I took 2 courses of all-road riding before my departure. unfortunatly, the sand course was cancelled...
cya!
oh, and I still have pavement tires on. and they are almost finished...i still need new ones.
what do you recommend guys? buying tires here in spain? wich ones?
changing them in morocco i guess... (I did a lot already on bikes, but somehow, changing tires is something I only did once...) |
I love Honda V Twins: I own 2 Transalps (87 and 88) and an Africa Twin (95). I know a lot about them. That's why I'm riding an XChallenge in Morocco on this trip. An AT with a lot of luggage (and stock suspension? And road tyres?) won't be a lot of fun in the sand or even if the track is vaguely interesting. I've toasted 2 clutches off-road on a Transalp, never on a DRZ or XC.
Then again you might be a demon off road...
Riding in sand on a shed of a bike isn't just something you can learn just like that.
Probably best to buy tyres in Spain and know how to fit them yourself. Others are unlikely to want to do it for you.
Beers en route are always fine. I don't think anyone wants to be frustrated because they're being left behind/having to wait excessively. Everybody should be on their own trip and willing and able to be self-sufficient.
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I don't think anyone wants to be frustrated because they're being left behind/having to wait excessively. Everybody should be on their own trip and willing and able to be self-sufficient.
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I love Honda V Twins: I own 2 Transalps (87 and 88) and an Africa Twin (95). I know a lot about them. That's why I'm riding an XChallenge in Morocco on this trip. An AT with a lot of luggage (and stock suspension? And road tyres?) won't be a lot of fun in the sand or even if the track is vaguely interesting. I've toasted 2 clutches off-road on a Transalp, never on a DRZ or XC.
Then again you might be a demon off road...
Riding in sand on a shed of a bike isn't just something you can learn just like that.
Probably best to buy tyres in Spain and know how to fit them yourself. Others are unlikely to want to do it for you.
Beers en route are always fine. I don't think anyone wants to be frustrated because they're being left behind/having to wait excessively. Everybody should be on their own trip and willing and able to be self-sufficient.
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I am an experienced snowboarder, and I know exactly what you mean with that
but are you only going to ride sand?
If you woud have nothing against it, it really woud like to try riding with you guys...
If it doens't work out, then no problem, but at least I want to give it a chance. and I am not intending to follow you in the dunes...
maybe Jamie, if we do some riding around gibraltar, you can evaluate if i will be able to catch up or not...
about the tires, i have no choice. I will buy some here in spain, but i will have to find a garage in morocco where they can help me changing them. If they do it once for me/with me, I will be able to do it alone i think.
and if nothing of this all works, i'd still be glad to have a  with you so you can tell me a few good routes to take 
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oh and about the cooling system.
it just don't work properly. thermostat was totally finished, so I changed it.
put new coolant in...no result.
or a radiator is stuck, or water pump is broke (it doens't leak tough)
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I am an experienced snowboarder, and I know exactly what you mean with that
but are you only going to ride sand?
If you woud have nothing against it, it really woud like to try riding with you guys...
If it doens't work out, then no problem, but at least I want to give it a chance. and I am not intending to follow you in the dunes...
maybe Jamie, if we do some riding around gibraltar, you can evaluate if i will be able to catch up or not...
about the tires, i have no choice. I will buy some here in spain, but i will have to find a garage in morocco where they can help me changing them. If they do it once for me/with me, I will be able to do it alone i think.
and if nothing of this all works, i'd still be glad to have a with you so you can tell me a few good routes to take |
I can't honest say where I'll be going. It'll depend a bit on the weather but I will be actively looking to get off the beaten track. The tracks from my 2 2007 DRZ trips were on an old gps that broke. I'll be generally following Chris Scott's guide book and some other tracks I do have. Maybe just see a track on the ground and just follow it? I don't have the answer to the question "What are the tracks like?" nor am I anyone's guide.
If not already done so, I suggest you buy a guidebook/ a map/ download Olaf on your GPS unit if you have one. That way if people's itineraries are similar we can ride the same way at the same time.
What I do remember from 2007 is that some parts of some routes were most definitely not suitable on a big and overloaded Africa Twin with stock suspension etc. They were hard enough on a light DRZ with good suspension and minimal luggage. You also need to sort out your cooling issue! It'll be very hot going on any bike.
Lots of places won't have so I might bring a bottle of Scotch from Spain. 
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ok ok i got the message.
good travels everyone!
i ride already before in morocco, I know it's hard to find s
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Ratte i don't mind showing you how to change a tire, I will be changing my front when i get down there, its easy.
I have no fixed route or itinerary so im pretty flexible on where we go
Also although iv never been on a bike to Morocco before i think a lot of tracks are hard pack gravel/rocks (mud with recent weather) with some sand thrown in for good measure.
I don't imagine I will be Paris Dakar style dune bashing across miles of open desert
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Probably the one that's leaving next, once we arrive at Algeceiras: ideally to Tangier Med as getting into Moroc is more straight forward. Ceuta wasn't that bad from what I remember either though.
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As Chris said,
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Could end up with quite a crew of people at this rate!
Im happy with any off road we can find!
Ratte when are you aiming to be in Gibralter? We could go for some off road around there while we wait for the other two to show up?!
What time are you (Patrick and Chris) aiming to get to port on the 20th?
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why not.
I have to pick up my carnet de passage in Malaga on monday anyway, and i will stay at least till friday here in Granada... don't know yet how or where to fix my cooling problem...
but if i'm at Gibraltar before the 19th, sure we can!
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What exactly is your cooling problem?
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What bike are you riding?
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What time are you (Patrick and Chris) aiming to get to port on the 20th?
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To be confirmed.
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Funny enough im on an OLD shed of a transalp 600 
Its far from standard though 
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