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Looking for riders to entrer into China from Kirghizstan or Kazakhstan next june 09

Hi all,
I am planing to ride from Paris to Katmandu starting next april. I'll be riding through Iran, the Stans before entering into China to go on the KKH highway, down to Islamabad, then India and finally Nepal.

I'm looking for some riders ready to share the cost of entering into China from either Kirghizstan or Kazakhstan around in the 25 of june 09. The classic plan would be to go down to Kashgar, Tashkorgan and finally Islamabad through the KKH highway.

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I'd be interested in some feed back too, on crossing one of those boarders. Contradictory stories about it are all I can get. Anyone has done it lately??

By the way, islamabad is not the best place to go to right now.... Tricky to get the visa on the road too (I've just tried a couple of days ago in Tehran: no way..)
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Hi,
Me and my friend (riding two Hondas Africa Twin) are planning to cross China (Xinjiang and Tibet) from Kyrgyzstan (turgurt Pass) to Nepal. Our planned dated is a little bit later: around 28 July enter to Xinijang and after 23 days leave to Nepal.

We plan to leave Poland in May and like you ride through Turkey, Iran, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and then China. The trip details (and dirrect e-mail to us) are here: www.worldonbikes.pl

If you can postpone your China entry time a little bit, we could settle the group and negotiate the prices...

Looking forward your response.
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Is the price any cheaper with a group for China? You'd think it would be but not until you get to 10 or more - and then only 10% or so. Well that's what I was quoted. Of course one person doing all the emailing, chasing etc for the rest does help.

Tricky to get the visa on the road too...

Actually coming from China you can buy a Pak visa at Sost immigration after Khunjerab Pass. $90 I think it was last Sept. We were on pushbikes but met a biker in ISB who had been escorted from Iran border in a rush. I don't suppose that has eased up.

I had an idea you could not leave from Tibet into Nepal, but I could be quite wrong.

In late August we hope to go from Kaz down via Taklamakan to Lhasa and back up west along the 219 to Kashgar and so Pak. Quoted €2600 pp but still working on it. Not sure that something as simple as into Tibet province from one point and out via another - especially the 219 to Kashi - is allowed.
We are 2 and don't mind 2 more.

Sorry to hijack Lighter's thread but I suppose keeping these offers all together helps.

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Hi Chris,

you idea sound interesting and the price is not bad or I would rather say very good. We were said US 6000 pp per 24 days from Kyrgyzstan-Kashgar-Lhasa-Tybet...This is much more than your price!

I understand that from Kashgar you go to KKH Pakistan - is this correct? Are you planning there to enter India? We wanted to make a ride in Ladakh. Which means taht we would have to be in India at the begining of September as the latest. Why do not you consider to make China leg a earlier, so that we would have enough time for Ladakh? In such case we could set up "four bikes group" and make China/Pakistan togehter.

If you are interested to discuss any further details on this, please write on my PRIV (trzasku@wp.pl).

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Hi Aleksandra,
the guy we are using is the well known 'John' round the back of the Seman Hotel.
John's Information Service & Café On The Silk Road and in Tibet kashgar turufan dunhuag xian xinjiang silkroad

We also have around 24 days quoted, but I am still not convinced everything is included. It is possible your quote includes a travel guide from the agency - not needed as far as I understand. That would have been 5000 with John with accom, fuel (car?) etc.

The price was originally quoted for 3 provinces (Bejing, Xinjiang and 'Tibet') so could well be less without Beijing? Who knows? I still have not got to the bottom of how it works in China.

As you may know last year all car permits were slowed down due to Olympics and even Pamirs were restricted when we rode thru following an attack in Kashi. I have still not heard for sure that they have started again without delay.

I know I am leaving it late - I am even buying heated clothing for the first time! - but have work and nice accom until July. From Pak I will go Iran and home, the other guy into India (but not Ladakh I think).
I expect the winter will catch me at some point.

Give John a go.

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