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[QUOTE=adam402;405351]Hi Katie

I am definitely looking to go this year, my visa is activated Feb 13 so i have to get to Oz latest Feb 2014 at the latest. I plan to get there by Xmas.


Hi Adam, sadly dont think I am going to be ready for Feb 2013.
Best of luck with your trip and send home any tips once you get to Oz.

Zandesiro, if I did encounter a bit of off roading, would the Tenere xt660z or a F650gs do the job? with the Varadero, do you have an enduro thank on that? I guess with lots of tarmac, its good to be comfy.

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Zandesiro, if I did encounter a bit of off roading, would the Tenere xt660z or a F650gs do the job?YES

with the Varadero, do you have an enduro thank on that?Look in my signature... I guess with lots of tarmac, its good to be comfy.

thanks so much!
Varadero is more tarmac oriented but will not say "NO" to gravel roads the V-twin of Honda is reliable....
I'll take the risk to go to the "stans" with a Varadero because i dont have a lot demands to go off-road with it....If something happends in the road contition i think Varadero could be just fine...

Another option for you is a Transalp 650...More light,cheap,19 liters tank,low fuel consumption(from tdm-varadero-Africa)
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Varadero is more tarmac oriented but will not say "NO" to gravel roads the V-twin of Honda is reliable....
I'll take the risk to go to the "stans" with a Varadero because i dont have a lot demands to go off-road with it....If something happends in the road contition i think Varadero could be just fine...

Another option for you is a Transalp 650...More light,cheap,19 liters tank,low fuel consumption(from tdm-varadero-Africa)
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My previous bike was the last of the Africa Twins, which we all know is the 750cc V - Twin.

The Varadero, as I understand it is the "next generation" Honda Africa Twin.
Just up'd the power from 750cc to 1000cc, like most of the other similar type bikes, BMW etc.
The Varadero will do every thing that the Africa Twin did.
The AT in reality was always a Tarmac and gravel trail type of bike.
Generally what is seen as 90% or so of all most peoples travels.
There isn't "that much very sandy" trails.
The Varadero will munch the tarmac miles with all the travel gear, in comfort. I am guessing long hours in the seat on a Varadero would be effortless, and still allow you to walk after a 500 mile ride "day ride"

The Varadero engine, is a "tried and tested" but bigger Africa twin engine, the VXR. Reliable, I am sure it will be.
Economical, for what it is, yes, sitting at 70 mph (125 km/h) for hours is going to use fuel, but you will also be covering big distances in comfort. 280 miles (450km) from a tank on tarmac.
Definatly the next bike I will buy for this sort of riding will be the Varadero.

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My previous bike was the last of the Africa Twins, which we all know is the 750cc V - Twin.

The Varadero, as I understand it is the "next generation" Honda Africa Twin.
Just up'd the power from 750cc to 1000cc, like most of the other similar type bikes, BMW etc.
The Varadero will do every thing that the Africa Twin did.
The AT in reality was always a Tarmac and gravel trail type of bike.
Generally what is seen as 90% or so of all most peoples travels.
There isn't "that much very sandy" trails.
The Varadero will munch the tarmac miles with all the travel gear, in comfort. I am guessing long hours in the seat on a Varadero would be effortless, and still allow you to walk after a 500 mile ride "day ride"

The Varadero engine, is a "tried and tested" but bigger Africa twin engine, the VXR. Reliable, I am sure it will be.
Economical, for what it is, yes, sitting at 70 mph (125 km/h) for hours is going to use fuel, but you will also be covering big distances in comfort. 280 miles (450km) from a tank on tarmac.
Definatly the next bike I will buy for this sort of riding will be the Varadero.

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My experience
I went through Mongolia by bike 2 years ago starting early May...got caught in 2 major white outs and a genuine sand storm. Temperature fluctuated between -10 and +30, sometimes in 1 hour! And I rode a Yamaha Serrow (230cc?) The bigger bikes got bogged down in sand while I just scooted over most of it. Just don't overload and take your time. 400cc seems about the right compromise between power / weight.

Here's a good contact: UlaanbatarMC's Mob:976 96650062, 976 96670062 T: 976 1135 8585, Email:hachiro_9(AT)yahoo(DOT)com N47 57'54.54 E106 53'25.81

webite here: ARKA MOTO SHOP: Welcome to ARKA MOTO SHOP

Very helpful for spares and routes as is Renee at Oasis

All the best and keep us informed as I'm itching to go again!
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Great helpful hints .... I am looking at leaving 15th ish August 2013 or there abouts taking a 250 either going or coming back via Iran if anyone interested. 5-6. Weeks 350- 500 miles per day. Ade
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... 350- 500 miles per day.


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These big miles are doable, but a lot will depend on favorable weather and good road conditions. Don't get too wedded to these big mile days though, you won't do them every day. I guess with a tight itinerary youdon't have much choice but to eat the miles but you don't want it to be at the expense of the trip.

My advice is to get through the boring bits as quickly as you can and then you can slow down and relax a bit through the better bits. Make an effort to stop and speak to the people, it's all too easy to get fixated on your odometer and the destination.

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