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Old 6 Sep 2012
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Route choice through China

Lot of questions, private and posts, regarding my route through China. Nothing decided as yet but I have attached a link which shows a route for which I has been approved and quoted for by a guide company.


https://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?m...422eab6f&msa=0.

This could be done in either direction.

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Route choice through Tibet from Laos

This route through Tibet is on offer by China-tours. They have a vehicle with six already to go in May, 2013. Have a look at the link.

https://maps.google.com.au/maps/ms?m...2121,39.506836

Something to consider.

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UK to OZ

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Hello David

I'm interested in UK to OZ. I have relatives in China and OZ and friends in Nepal

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I am in the throes of putting together such a trip for May/June 2012 and looking for a partner.

I you are interested send e-mail address via private message and perhaps we could see if there is a common theme.

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Hello David

I'm interested in UK to OZ. I have relatives in China and OZ and friends in Nepal

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John

Thank you for your post. Best thing I ever did was join Horizons Unlimited because it has put me in touch with like minded travellers.

To make China cost effective for me there will need to be a large group sharing costs - so your interest is welcome. No decision has been made as yet - still collecting info. and interested parties before deciding route.

As my plans progress we will communicate further.

David
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Heading East 2013 - China Crossing

Hi David,

I just came across your post and I have similar issues regarding the China crossing.

I intend to start from Germany next year in May, going to Mongolia, and from there south to Nepal/India via China. I guess I would be in China in July/August.

Let me know, which way you are going and whether you will start in UK ...

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Mongolia?

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Hi David,

I just came across your post and I have similar issues regarding the China crossing.

I intend to start from Germany next year in May, going to Mongolia, and from there south to Nepal/India via China. I guess I would be in China in July/August.

Let me know, which way you are going and whether you will start in UK ...

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Jens
Jens

Thank you for your message. Starting out from Germany you probably will pass through Russia enroute to Mongolia? The route I am discusing with others and pretty much decided on does not involve Mongolia.

My route, at this stage should I decide on UK to AUS, passes through Turkey, the stans and then Kashgar.

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Clever bastards! Keeping the costs up even though we add more people to the group. I like simple mathematics, but of course, they're Chinese, they practically "invented" it, huh? So they can do whatever they want! ;-) Hmm..
I'll try to find more people to join, but unless the costs per person doesn't get under $1000 I can't afford it. Then I'll ship the bike instead...
IF you go south to north, that is...
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Clever bastards! Keeping the costs up even though we add more people to the group. I like simple mathematics, but of course, they're Chinese, they practically "invented" it, huh? So they can do whatever they want! ;-) Hmm..
I'll try to find more people to join, but unless the costs per person doesn't get under $1000 I can't afford it. Then I'll ship the bike instead...
IF you go south to north, that is...
Hello

Judging by the last quote the costs are down to $3,587 USD per vehicle assuming four vehicles with a seat for the guide. When I first started looking the cost for me travelling alone was in the vicinity of $14,000 USD.

The quotes appear to indicate that the cost of Chinese insurance, licence fees and vehicle tags per vehicle is high. When I compare the cost of three vehicles v's four vehicles the costs per vehicle reduce by about $600 only. That is why I have been canvassing for other interested riders to join forces with. I have asked for quotes from every guide company found on the internet. Don't think the cost per rider will ever get down to less than a $1,000 USD though.

If you find anything please let me know.

David
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Yeah, it was maybe a bit naive to think I'd get away with it THAT "cheap"... we'll see how much I manage to scrape together until spring... Thanks a lot for checking so thoroughly!
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Looking for travel partners.

Plan to travel from AUS to Malaysia, Thailand, Laos and into China. Travelling the Silk Road into Kazakhstan, etc. before ending up in UK. I am also prepared to do the trip in reverse if I cannot find starters in AUS and starters exist in UK.

NAVO, the travel guide company, has given me a quote for a solo crossing of China, which is expensive, so I am looking for other travellers to share the cost.

I have a BMW R1200GS.

I want to travel during the northern hemishere spring, summer or autumn next year 2013. It takes at least three months to get Chinese government permissions.

Two years ago I did a solo bike trip from USA through Mexico and Central America to Chile. Keen to get going again but this time with company.

David
Hi Dave,

I did the Oz to Europe trip back in 2010 and happy to send any info ( GPS, Journals etc ) email bergrider at hotmail dot com or PM here.

I'm in Egypt, finally heading North again ( part 3 of my RTW run ) so please be patient as IT if scarce.

Cheers !
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Information - thank you

Frank

Thank you. No point re-inventing the wheel - I am keen to get as much info. as possible so will be in contact.

Keep safe. When I was in Egypt had to travel in a convoy down to Luxor - still the case? Felt more of a target in the convoy than when I managed to slip out and about by myself.

Cheers
David

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Hi Dave,

I did the Oz to Europe trip back in 2010 and happy to send any info ( GPS, Journals etc ) email bergrider at hotmail dot com or PM here.

I'm in Egypt, finally heading North again ( part 3 of my RTW run ) so please be patient as IT if scarce.

Cheers !
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