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Old 14 Feb 2012
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As far as I know this can still be done the old fashioned way.

Walk into a high street insurance brokers, give the address of a hotel or the one on the V5, hand over the cash and walk out with a cover note.

Find a "no appointment" MOT place, drive in, bribe the ****wits to pass it, sorry, I mean buy new shock absorbers/wiper blades/bulbs/ash tray cleaner, drive out with the certificate.

Walk into any post office with cash and the three bits of paper (V5, cover note, MOT certificate) and walk out with the tax disc.

Ring the broker and cancel the UK insurance (they'll keep most of the premium for "administraton"), ring your German or Australian insurer and do whatever is required to get the driver cover green card extended to cover this vehicle as required. Post half the V5 back to Swansea from Calais with the Exported box ticked.

Not the cheapest way but the fastest.

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yes but can a non european / uk person do this
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yes but can a non european / uk person do this
Of course. No ID is required, we don't have ID cards or anything like the French . They'll actually be so terrified of getting sued for racisim they'd sell this rubbish to a Martian. It's a tax. If you say you want to pay they'll take your money.

You can actually do the insurance on-line from an internet cafe or hotel reception, they'll mail a PDF of the cover note same day. The insurance is invalid if you lie about the address so make sure you are covered by the green card from Germany or whatever in case you do crash, this paperwork is only there to grease the wheels of the tax system if you lied to get it.

Your seller is been a PITA because if you decided to stay a few years, claim the dole, have a free Kidney transplant, go through the tax cameras over the limit, assasinate the Queen etc. he's going to get all the hassle. Facts don't worry the DVLA, if his name is on the paperwork they'll send the boys round after his cash.

I guess this vehicle is special? No chance of buying one with 6 months Tax and MOT somewhere between Heathrow and Dover?

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tax

So do you have a Website address

Every wher I contact they don't even respond to my emails

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I guess this vehicle is special? No chance of buying one with 6 months Tax and MOT somewhere between Heathrow and Dover?

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no the vehicle isn't special, its just a vehicle, and what do you do with a vehicle DRIVE it. its not thevehicle that is the problem its the DUMB beuruacicy that says that because I am not a UK citizen. I can't drive it or get a 3rd party insurance to drive any vehicle.
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i have just looked at Direct gov. DVLA and it suggests I don't need a gren card insurance for Western European countrys.

I am still looking for a UK based company that will provide 3rd party insurance to a non resident.
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i have just looked at Direct gov. DVLA and it suggests I don't need a gren card insurance for Western European countrys.

I am still looking for a UK based company that will provide 3rd party insurance to a non resident.
Try this thread for ideas about green card ins for Europe; after all the UK is still in Europe:-
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...et-cheap-34822

When I lived on the continent I insured my UK vehicle via an insurance broker over there; that was years ago when UK insurers were not used to providing green card cover for longer than a two week touring holiday to Europe.


Also, you could take a look at this UK insurer, but I think they will want you to have a UK driving licence and have an address in the UK:-
Fast, Low Cost Online Insurance From eInsurance Group
They work exclusively online and will not deal with you by telephone which can be a complete PITA.
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Not much I can add to this apart from agree with the above.

The UK insurance industry and DVLA do NOT recognise the concept of 'non-resident', although the insurance cos do get upset if you don't have a UK/EU driving licence. For the purposes of things like income tax or immigration status - it's different.

You give a drop-box address to get the V5 into your name and you get the vehicle MOT'd. Simultaneously you use the drop-box address to get a 3rd party insurance policy (which you don't need to show proof of MOT or road tax for and which DOES give you 3rd party aka Green Card cover for up to 60 days elsewhere in the Green Card area (the EU plus other countries in the Green Card scheme)). When the V5 arrives, you take it, the MOT and the insurance doc to your nearest post office and buy a tax disc. Then you drive to Dover, you get on the ferry, you drive across the EU and exit it within 60 days. At that point, if you want to re-register the vehicle somewhere new you declare it permanently exported or, if you want it to keep its home of registration as the UK so that you don't want to mess about with re-registering the vehicle somewhere new, you SORN the vehicle. You may also want to consider cashing in the unexpired proportion of the road tax at this point, although not sure how that will work if you don't have a UK bank a/c.

Alternatively, once you have got the V5 into your name at the drop-box address and taken out 3P insurance, if you're not a UK citizen and don't ever want to live there you could take a chance on driving the vehicle straight to Dover and onto a ferry without MOT or road tax. Others on this forum may have a clearer idea of the likelihood of you getting stopped and the vehicle impounded by ANPR-equipped police on the way (think that's more likely with no insurance), otherwise all that will happen is a series of fines (and bailiffs, eventually!) turning up at the drop-box address after you're long-gone.

Agree with the other comments about the seller being a PITA though. A lot of buyers would have simply walked away from someone who is seemingly refusing to budge on anything.

Good luck!

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Might help!

Here's a google search based on "non resident car insurance uk"

non resident car insurance uk - Google Search

& one or two particular links from tbe above:-

Car Insurance for Non UK Residents

Car Insurance UK Cheap Deals

http://www.superquote.com/foreign-li...nal-insurance/
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getting MOT and Road tax

Thanks for all the Replys, comments, answers, I take it that most of this information comes from a GB person perpective of the vehicle Licencing and insurance In GB

I think I may have found someone that can provide me with a Uk adress for documentation.
But that is only less than 1/ 3rd off the poblem, The biggest is this beleif in the UK that a person not licenced in the UK, would not be able to Drive successfully without insident in The UK, I mean your taffic is bad but, howbad it, that a driver any driver couldn't do it. Obvoiusly your country Driving licence and a international Driving permit mean nothing ( although I will have to renew this very soon)

Insurance to drive, well this is what I call 3rd party insurance, Not insurance for yourself, but insurance for any one else on the road in case of a accident.
I still ask the question Why is it only a UK resident can have this.
I have contacted many insurance companys over the last 2 weeks or so and some of they won't even answer my emails. This just tells me That they don't want to do business and make money.


European Green card, I have looked into this, but it is no good for driving in the UK to take the vehicle out of the UK, Once on the European contient yes I can put this vehicle in Insurance cover for the road.


Thanks for the search engine links , But I have done them all, every turn I make their is another UK brick wall their saying residency or residency and Uk licence or watever. or even just residency with money.

This just tells me the Uk is not interesed in the traveler. particulaaly one like me that was mearly using the UK as a starting point or a short or long journey.

People are doing these very types of trips all the Time, either with motor bikes for this forum or with vehcles, there would have been people from all round the world have done this before.
I just wonder weather the motorcycle rider is getting the same treatment.

I have a drivers licence, but this does not allow me to drive a vehicle in the UK. 6 or 7 hours to drive it to a ferry port.
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