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If everyone in the country was to claim a road tax rebate at the end of each month, by declaring SORN, and re-tax the vehicle the next day [...] then the system would probably collapse under its' own bureaucracy - if not in the first month then it would almost certainly do so in the next month.
You would just have to do without the vehicle for one day per month.
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You would also end up paying more RFL over the course of the year because the refund is not the full unexpired value. While I would love to protest, I don't want to do so by giveing them MORE of my money!
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Also, declare all those spare bikes SORN and then re-tax them, over and over.
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[Ahem] you should be declaring them SORN anyway, as I found to my cost with a permanently stalled restoration project. Not sure whether or how you could gum up the system by re declaring every month instead of annually, but that might be worth investigating.
IO'd bet, however, that if they transferred the tax onto fuel, they'd then decide they had some need for an annual charge for some invented purpose, with attendant bureaucracy and cost.
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the whole road tax system is a complete mess , i am still getting letters demanding payment of fines for not taxing a vehicle i sold over a year ago . i have even sent them a copy of the letter they sent me , thanking me for informing them of the sale of the vehicle , which was taxed at the time of sale ,and what happened then ? they sent me another letter threatening legal action if i fail to pay the fine !
the whole system is so overloaded with nonsensical bureaucracy ,that even they themselves do not seem to know what they are doing .
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I've been taken to court by the DVLA for not taxing a vehicle that was written off (V5 surrendered to the insurer, DVLA informed), a vehicle that was destroyed by the DVLA whilst I was on an overland trip (had the V5 in the glove compartment as someone was SUPPOSED to sell it for me) and a vehicle that was on a SORN when I bought it (they took the SORN off without telling me then issued a court summons!!). I have tried to register one bike 3 times now and they lost the original V5, lost the new keepers supplement and now say because I do not have either I owe them 25 quid.
When the revolution comes the DVLA will be the first against the wall!!
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I exported a car to Eire when my son took it over there. Some 12 months later an organization in Glasgow wrote to me and said I'd been fined £40 for not taxing or sorning it. I wrote a letter explaining that I'd followed the correct procedure for exporting it by filling in the tear off slip and posting it. I also still had a copy of the ferry ticket with the registration number and date it was taken over.
They eventually wrote back and said on this occasion they wouldn't be taking the matter any further. But the tone of the letter was such that I'd had my hand slapped for somehow being a naughty boy.
The worrying thing about all this persecution for doing nothing is that if you're away for a long trip you've got no idea what's building up for your return as Henry seems to have found out the hard way.
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You would also end up paying more RFL over the course of the year because the refund is not the full unexpired value. While I would love to protest, I don't want to do so by giveing them MORE of my money!
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You should get a full rebate on the 12 month version, for every un-used month that is "cashed in" before the end of a month.
Yes, for a 6 month version you have paid over the odds, and an amount of cash would be lost - don't know how much off hand because I don't do 6 months for that reason.
Anyway, it's not going to happen is it?!
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