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Speeding in Finland can cost a fortune!

Ever since Finland adopted the Argentine tango as its' official dance,I have tried to keep up with current events in Finland.

Here we have a heretofore mild mannered rich guy who
"was recently fined 54,024 euros (about $58,000) for traveling a modest, if illegal, 64 miles per hour in a 50 m.p.h. zone. And no, the 54,024 euros did not turn out to be a typo, or a mistake of any kind."

"Mr. Kuisla is a millionaire, and in Finland the fines for more serious speeding infractions are calculated according to income. The thinking here is that if it stings for the little guy, it should sting for the big guy, too."

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He is a slow learner though. Reported that this is the second time he has had huge fines.

Actually a fair system.
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I actually agree with fines being related to income. Why should the penalised more heavilly than the rich!
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I actually agree with fines being related to income. Why should the penalised more heavilly than the rich!
Have to agree there too Moggy, however it is a surprisingly unpopular proposition. Rather like suggesting that billion dollar corporations should pay tax instead of 20k employees.......
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Speeding Submarines ???

I agree, the rich should pay more than the less rich, is anyone really poor in Finland?

If there are poor in Finland, perhaps instead of a paying a fine for speeding, the poor could share in the spoils separated from the speeding rich and soon there would less poor, thus creating a larger population of those who could be fined for speeding.

Seems like we are not alone..... others are also interested in Finland. The Wall Street Journal reports that "Finland Chases Off Suspected Submarine"

I wonder what the fine would be if the suspected submarine was caught speeding? Looks like the Finnish Navy gave quite a chase.

Finland Chases Off Suspected Submarine - WSJ

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Have to agree there too Moggy, however it is a surprisingly unpopular proposition. Rather like suggesting that billion dollar corporations should pay tax instead of 20k employees.......
yes and I think we also need some areas of road tha have no limit at all, so if we want to we can have a blast without breaking the law.... with having to hire a race track (ok for millionaires)

Every one will know when the area's are and then can be well out of the way of residential areas.

I do not want to live in a risk free sanitised world but conversely I want to choose if and when I take a risk too.

and I don't do not mean about getting caught.....
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Given that the speeding fine is calculated as a percentage of 'your' income it can never cost 'you' a fortune.

A fortune to somebody else maybe, but never to yourself.
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So what happens if like some people on this forum you have no income, no house and just the bike between your legs and some money in the bank to your name, how do they calculate your fine?
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positive reinforcement in Finland....

Mark Manley, as stated in my post #5 here is one possibility....

"If there are poor in Finland, perhaps instead of a paying a fine for speeding, the poor could share in the spoils separated from the speeding rich and soon there would less poor, thus creating a larger population of those who could be fined for speeding."

Perhaps we could take this one step further and pay the "poor," poverty level income or below, who have a motorcycle registered in Finland , pay them a reward for not being caught speeding each month.

This monthly stipend given to the poor who have Finland legally registered motorcycles for not being caught speeding would, of course, be paid for out of the funds collected from the speeding rich.

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So what happens if like some people on this forum you have no income, no house and just the bike between your legs and some money in the bank to your name, how do they calculate your fine?
by how much you have in the bank I guess, same as most means tested things
there may well be a minimum amount as well.
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by how much you have in the bank I guess, same as most means tested things
there may well be a minimum amount as well.
.... or you could do what I did and ride a non-EU registered motorcycle through Scandinavia and Finland. I flouted traffic laws and never received fines as the vast majority of traffic enforcement is by camera. It was simply too much trouble for them to interact with local Australian authorities and issue infringement notices.
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