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Originally Posted by Lonerider
Listening to tripe and liars as you put it is a choice we have to help us decide which way to vote or not to vote at all
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Which is why this thread degenerated once people started posting links to all sorts of tosh written by other people. I'm not really interested what 'experts' have to say, to me it's a simple choice between getting sucked into an increasingly federal European state, or remaining independent. I don't need to read 100-page articles to decide which way I'm going to vote. I'd much rather read simple posts stating simple personal thoughts.
The latest European army move is a great example of ill-thought federalisation. With the exception of France and the UK, most countries' armed forces aren't fit for purpose. The shame of the Dutch army's failure at Srebrenica is a moot example. And one British officer described the Bundeswehr's operations in Afhanistan as "an aggressive camping organisation" rather than an army.
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