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Dirtiest place you have seen

Today I crossed from Ecuador to Peru and followed Pan American highway.
I was truly shocked how filthy northern Peru is, thrash is just everywhere
I think northern Peru is dirtier than India, but what is your comment? What is the dirtiest area you have seen (not just one spot but overall area)?
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India and Birma. Sad to see plastic EVERYWHERE ...

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Belgium, for the dog sh1t that lies in the designated children's play areas, which are fenced off but the locals deliberately allow their 4 legged friends to poop there.
That was 20 years ago, observed when I lived there for a while, so perhaps they have cleaned up their act.
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Southern Pakistan (i.e. Sindh), unbelievable dirt, makes India look pretty clean.

Dhaka in Bangladesh comes pretty close.
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Belgium, for the dog sh1t that lies in the designated children's play areas, which are fenced off but the locals deliberately allow their 4 legged friends to poop there.
That was 20 years ago, observed when I lived there for a while, so perhaps they have cleaned up their act.
Yeah I've seen that recently and it's "spread" to Luxembourg, including on the gas station forecourt........footrests.....and hotel reception in Metz

Also I was quite taken back in a very rural part of Turkey to see 1000's of water bottles spread across the countryside. I could only assume they got carried there by the wind or dumped from a truck?

But yes India has a lot of plastic in a lot of areas but thankfully not everywhere......yet
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Plastic is good for some items, but I just cannot understand why everything needs to be wrapped in to it (like each candy inside a candy bag).
It just annoys me when there is a really beautiful scenery, but it is completely ruined by empty bottles, plastic bags, paper etc (like pan american highway on northern Peru).

I can understand in the cities if it is dirty because there is no proper handling of a trash, but I cannot understand adults in those areas who throw trash everywhere (from moving cars etc).

So sad to see these things
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Today I crossed from Ecuador to Peru and followed Pan American highway.
I was truly shocked how filthy northern Peru is, thrash is just everywhere
I think northern Peru is dirtier than India, but what is your comment? What is the dirtiest area you have seen (not just one spot but overall area)?

I understand your question. But I would like to see the question slightly changed to. The filthiest place you know, but the people know about it. As in the places that have been posted. The local population don't see the rubbish. Go to London or most big city's in the UK and it's all over the place. To me the people who live there should know what rubbish is. And what to do with it. But no. It's just dumped where they stand. Go to Singapore and it's 50 buck's on the spot if you drop so much as a fag end.


Greece is not that clean. But hell they have more problems that rubbish in the street's
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Southern Turkey has a lot of plastic bottles next to the road (coastal roads).
I do not know if it is from the locals or from tourists
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Southern Turkey has a lot of plastic bottles next to the road (coastal roads).
I do not know if it is from the locals or from tourists
It's bike rider's. I've seen them do it. Drink from bottle. When empty. Dump bottle.
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It's bike rider's. I've seen them do it. Drink from bottle. When empty. Dump bottle.
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I always thought it was truck drivers - drink from bottle and when empty, fill bottle and chuck out window.

Not really a region but the north end of Nouhadibou in Mauritania is a complete dump. Literally it's a dump, grazed by herds of goats with paper and plastic that they've unearthed blowing around all over the place. A bit of a surprise when you come in from the relatively clean desert.
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Waste along the road is a problem in most of the third world countrys but it gets very bad if people start to change the Oil of their cars and despose the old oil into a river and start to cut down the rain forest:

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More garbage awaits your visit

Well, Hemuli, if you are going to continue South on the Panamericana algong the coast of Peru, to many more garbage sights!!! I rode the Panamericana, all the way to Chile, last December, and I truly got sick and tired of so much garbage...
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Well, Hemuli, if you are going to continue South on the Panamericana algong the coast of Peru, to many more garbage sights!!! I rode the Panamericana, all the way to Chile, last December, and I truly got sick and tired of so much garbage...
Yeah, it is really filthy road and it is mainly travelled by tourists, so why they do not keep it cleaner... :thumb down:

I got tired for all that filth and took some small inland roads. Really nice! No trash (no people ) and scenery is gorgeous
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