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Baby Boomers Switching to Walkers...

Harley-Davidson cuts shipments forecast; shares skid | Reuters

Harley-Davidson's biggest market - the Baby Boomers - Born 1946 to 1964 are dismounting. Perhaps the market has been saturated or those of my generation have down traded down to walkers for transport.

Along with he rise in the stock the hearing aid companies (Many Harley riders in Arizona do not wear helmets and are always tweeking their throttles)
I have noted less Harleys doing Route 66 then previously.

What does this mean? Which are the bikes for the current and future generations? Actually on Route 66 dual sport bikes might be replacing the Harleys... Any guesses?

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I've started to notice a shift in the demographics. I was out for a walk after work and noticed a few dozen different bikes. There were still a fairly large percentage that were large Harleys or Japanese cruisers, but I did spot a larger than usual number of sportbikes and dual purposes, enough that I noticed.

The cruiser bikes were piloted mostly by guys in their 50s and 60s, while the smaller caliber bikes were generally younger riders with a fair number of women. Of the dualies several were KLR650s fitted with hard panniers.

How well is the Harley Street 750 selling? That was supposed to be Harley's attempt at bringing in new riders to their marque with a more affordable bike. I see the occasional one on the road, but no more than say the number of Honda Shadows or Suzuki Boulevards. I suspect it is selling in okay numbers, but is not setting any sales records.
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I see a lot more Boomers / Gen X on bicycles than on motorcycles over here. Harley may be shifting less than before but lycra salesmen look very happy.
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My theory is that it has a lot to do with mid-life crisis. You wanted to be a biker when you were younger but marriage, kids, being "responsible and respectable", losing your liking for death defying activity got in the way. You want to recapture you youth, buy a big bike, find out its a lot more fun to drive a Tundra than a Harley in the rain. An adventure changes from being base jumping to taking the family to Disney World Adventure Land. Most Harley's sold are 4-5 years old, all tricked out, with less than 5k miles. Note to bikers from other countries--if you want an adventure, avoid Interstate and most federal highways.
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Stay off the Interstate Highways and more

grumpy geezer got it exactly right with his advice to STAY OFF THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS there are many alternative routes that are far more interesting and without the 18 wheelers that always tax the smaller bikes.

Also the psych job done on the boomers this thread is pretty good, at least I agree with most of the analysis. There is one more factor - the advertising - have you seen the fifty something gentleman astride his big bike - now featured even in Big Pharma commercials - somehow the phallusness (new word) of a big engine between legs, no matter how spindly the legs are is a great compensator.

As the boys begin to lose it they look for stiffeners - and voila the marketing firms understand this and provide stiffeners in the form of big engines with the right proximity to the failing parts.

You know how they sold "pet rocks" this for those who know what a pet rock is; they leaked that some pet rocks had gold inside - and sales boomed. You know how they sold Alka Zeltzer? They leaked to pharmacists that if a woman took an Alka Zeltzer vaginally sex would be greatly enhanced.

You know how they sold Harleys ? Just guess!

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I can see Harley struggling with their marketing. They think they are showing me Denis Hopper, but I'm 43 so see the Village People.

They don't want to drop my dads generation which makes sense (for now). What I don't get is why they don't put their engine in a Triumph/Vincent shaped frame that will appeal to Europeans, Hipsters, Indians who don't want to wait for the Enfield twin, and market it under one of the other brands they own. Aermachi springs to mind. I think they fear the fact that as they couldn't market it through their cruiser dealerships they'd risk competeing against themselves.

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