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Their friend noticed they where not talking coherently and decided to go find help alone.
When he returned 40 minutes latter with help they where dead .
My thoughts are with their families.
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"So sorry to hear about all three of these people."
Linking these two together, this 3rd guy will blame himself for a very long time; that is the nature of such incidents, increasingly as time passes.
The one who survives asks himself how that came to be, and, and ............. it goes on for a long time.
I hope that he continues to ride, all in due course.
+ for any single one of the unfortunate chain of events it can be survived (while those involved don't even realise how close they have got to a non-happy ending) but putting them all together becomes a litany of decisions, chance and choices - "there by the grace of" go all of us.
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How terrible for them, I was there in May and it was hot then. No way i'd take a big bike on the dunes it's madness.
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Above 40C you won't notice if your sweating or not because it evaporates so quickly.
Piss straw colour twice a day, minimum.
Caffeine drinks such as coffee or cola will make your pee clearer so may give a false impression of how dry you are
Don't wait to drink until your thirsty, by then you are already well into a fluid deficit. Drink regularly, your not drinking because your thirsty, your drinking to stay alive.
These guys didn't dehydrate and get heat stroke in 40 minutes, they were already into the advanced stages when their friend went for help. This will have been developing for sometime.Look for the early signs such as headache, lack of concentration and irritability.
Be aware that if you've had a close call with heatstroke, your still at risk of going into organ failure for several days, so stay somewhere you can get help if you need it.
when your working hard, digging out etc, strip down to loose light clothing, then put your stuff back on when you need it. It's a fag but you need to try and stay cool.
If your getting a bit desperate, piss on a rag and wrap it around your neck and/or pack it in your groin to aid cooling (if you can piss!!)
Don't start on a deficit (because you've been out on the lash the night before for example)
Drink plenty when you can, i.e when your at a water source, so you have a good positive balance on board when you start. Once away from the source, don't drink large volumes at once as you'll just piss it back out again, little and often.
That's my advice off the top of my head born of 23 years as an Army medic, and seeing plenty of full blown heatstrokes
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A similar tragedy to 2012 just happened near El Mhamid.
https://www.bladi.net/chaleur-tue-fr...ra,114518.html
ICYMI, worth scanning the preceding for advice if desert riding in the hotter months.
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Holy thread resurrection! Still, 8 years later, it is still valid. 
Nice one Moggy1968
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I don't suppose the autopsy result will ever make it into the headlines but it sounds as though he may have had issues other than just the heat getting to him.
There's a lot of good sense about dehydration and its effects been posted over the life of this thread and its all worth taking on board but in my experience it's often quite hard to recognise it in yourself until it's almost too late. If you're doing something physical you can easily mistake it for exercise fatigue. In a hot climate you often won't get the sweat dripping from everywhere indication as it evaporates so fast.
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he may have had issues other than just the heat getting to him.
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I think you are right. It's been unusually cold in southern Morocco this last week or two: rain, gales, single-digit temps in the Atlas, and only low 30s around Mhamid.
But as some may know, that sandy start out of Mhamid can be a freak out on a big, heavy moto (and is why the TMT was not routed that way).
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When rumours started circulating about this incident almost a week ago, one story was he had a heart attack. Talking to the mechanics in Zagora today they say it’s heat. But unless an autopsy result is published we’ll probably never hear the full story.
I have also heard that the same group met some other travellers the days before and the bikers were out of water. As always getting accurate info is not the easiest.
As Chris mentions the weather this year is unusually cool, over the last 2 months we’ve had freezing weather, torrential rain and I haven’t seen temps above 35 (compared to the 40’s in April 23). A few days ago people were building snow men in Zagora after a huge hail storm.
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