Buying a foreign owned bike in Chile with the owner not in the country

[sunflowers]

I hope I have gone through most of the postings relating to buying a bike in Chile. But most of them seem to relate to purchasing a bike from a local dealer or selling a bike. I wish to purchase another traveller's bike off him but he leaves at the end of October and I arrive at the start of December. Does anyone know the procedure for this?

From what I can gather from previous posts it would involve us both obtaining a RUT (Chilean Social Security Number) and selling the bike in either Iquique or Punta Arenas. How long does it take to get a RUT? Can he leave the bike there and will he have problems leaving if the bike is still stamped in his passport.

Would it be enough for me to just use his ownership papers or do I need to get the ownership papers transferred to my name and would this be done in the US (where the bike is from) or Chile?

How long do you think the process would take? Any help would be appreciated.

Best regards,
Annette

[Gerbie]

Hi Annette,

There's just a new post, maybe this (or they) can answer your questions..
Good luck and hope to see you around!
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ile-help-13298

Gerben.

[sunflowers]

I saw that post but it is the details about buying from a dealer rather than privately.

Thanks though,
Annette

[Atwoke]

Anette,

If the bike is chilean registered the procedure is as described in the other thread.

If the bike is foreign registered you can only complete the transfer in the country of registration. In some countries that is possible by post and by using notaries or solicitors.

There are many posts about how to change the temporary import papers. Basically, the previous owner must export the bike with the old registration, and you can then import it to the neighbouring country with the new registration. The bike has to physically leave the country!

As I understand it, it is illegal to permanently import or trade foreign second hand bikes into most SA countries. This means it will not be possible to change a US registration into a Chilean registration. The bike will have to stay US!

Hope that helps

Jens

[Albert Hoermann]

Ask him to write an Autorization for you what he should get confirmed by a loyer from Chile than you should not have big troubles to leave the country! Make also your own papers for the motorbike with your name (make them yourself with a nice stamp and get someone to sign it), there are more people riding around the world with faith papers, just do not get closed to your homecountry and you will be fine! No one knows down here what your papers look like and if they look more or less simular than the original ones you will not have a problem!

[sunflowers]

Hi Jens and Albert,

As we both won't be there at the same time he would have to do a temporary import into Chile, get it authorised by a lawyer that I can have the bike and the temporary import and leave it for me. Then I would pick it up and ride through SA with the temporary import, registration and authorisation?

Do you think that would work?

Thanks for your advice!
Annette

[Atwoke]

Originally Posted by sunflowers

Hi Jens and Albert,

As we both won't be there at the same time he would have to do a temporary import into Chile, get it authorised by a lawyer that I can have the bike and the temporary import and leave it for me. Then I would pick it up and ride through SA with the temporary import, registration and authorisation?

Do you think that would work?

Thanks for your advice!
Annette

Hmmm, the authorization works for chilean bikes....just need one for every country you want to visit. We didn't have the new Chilean papers when we travelled to Peru, Bolivia, and Argentina, but we had an authorization for each of these countries. Only the Bolivian guy suggested it should have been stamped by the Bolivian embassy in Santiago...but then we all have to make a living, and he did process us for free after a bit of patient explaining of how the document had nothing to do with Bolivian law....he didn't even ask for a 'voluntary contribution'!

I'm not sure if you can get the authorization if you never meet, as both parties have to sign and thumb print when it is issued....perhabs Albert has and idea? It might be possible to get it done through a third party...i.e. give the notary (or some trusted person) a full authorization to do what ever they like (including selling the bike) and that person could in turn authorize you???

Chileans have a very good computer system and they will notice if things are not right.

The other question is if a chilean notary can issue an authorization for a foreign registered vehicle???

Jens

[Arlen Aas]

I am from and am in US. I have a dealer in Temuco Chile who has authorization to sell one of my bikes that was purchased in Chile and registered in Chile in my name(I am US citizen). I had RUT when I purchased bike. Easy to get. Free. Temp RUT is given immediately, permanant one needs to be mailed to Chile address.

Dealer drafted a paper and signed by another party that allows him (dealer) to transfer my title to moto if I am not in the country. The paper that was drafted has a limited time of being valid. The paper states how much bike can be sold for and what dealers commission is etc etc.

Annette: I suggest that you have seller go to a notoria (lawyer) in Chile, (find an english speaking office), have selled draw up those papers and have selleg give authorization to notoria to act as poa(power of attorney) for transfer of bike. POA can be specific to just transferring bike. When you arrive in Chile, go to same lawyer. He will arrange for RUT, and transfer of papers. Then enjoy South America knowing you are legal. No tension at borders. No bribes. Seller is cleared of bike too........

If you are buying Jen's bike....I believe it already is registered in Chile so no need to do any type of temporary importation.

Good luck.......

[Atwoke]

Ahhh, but my bike will be only up for sale from 8th JAnuary...

How are you doing Arlen? Long time no hear...

Jens