Nordkapp and kirkenes in Winter.

[Tiger3]

Hello, in February 2018 I will leave for Nordkapp, Murmansk and St Petersburg in solo with my 1200GSA named Walkyrie.
I would like to see northern Lights (aurora boréalis) and north in winter.

I would like to know where I can buy studded tubular tires.
At Larvick or Jökoping or other twon. (in France it's prohibited)

I will of course be equipped for very cold and the bike prepared too. ( ski, battery odyssey for skidoo and winter oil :0W.40) and jacket: canada goose, helmet :bombardier BVS and so on ....


* I need advice from Norwegian, Swedish and Finnish to prepare my itinerary.
1 ° itinerary by Norway:
Hirtshals / Larvick / Oslo / Lillehammer / Trondheim / Narvik / and Nordkapp
Which roads are most often cleared?
For you how many days i need in winter in good weather condition (of course).

2. By Sweden and Finland, the road is so practicable for a motorcycle and what average temperature? Odense Kobenhavn / Jönkoping / Uppsala / Sundsvall / Uméa / Rovaniemi Ivalo / Nordkapp / kirkenes.
For you how many days i need in winter in good weather condition (of course).

If it's so difficult and/or i m tired , i take ferry to go back.

thank's
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[Snakeboy]

For studded tyres and other similar information this norwegian facebook group is a good source for information: https://m.facebook.com/groups/2415371249
Its a closed group so you will have to become a member first.

The E6 is the road that goes «all the way» through Norway so thats probably your safest bet when it comes to the best cleared road through Norway in the winter.

[Tiger3]

Originally Posted by Snakeboy

For studded tyres and other similar information this norwegian facebook group is a good source for information: https://m.facebook.com/groups/2415371249
Its a closed group so you will have to become a member first.

The E6 is the road that goes «all the way» through Norway so thats probably your safest bet when it comes to the best cleared road through Norway in the winter.

Thank's Snakeboy, i will contact them .

[sushi2831]

Originally Posted by Tiger3

I would like to know where I can buy studded tubular tires.

Hirtshals / Larvick / Oslo / Lillehammer / Trondheim
Which roads are most often cleared?

Hello

I did two short trips in the south till Trondheim/Ostersund.
First in Dez14 and then in Feb16.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...542#post551366

On both trips the E6 was a problem with the snow, just to much traffic, it's cleared itself.

Use small sideroutes and stay away from the coast.
I had better conditions in Sweden, a bit North of Karlstad the snow stayed on the road.

North of Trondheim/Ostersund it`s probably good.
Have a lock at https://www.vegvesen.no/trafikkinfor...nger/Webkamera

For the tyres.
First I used manufactured tyres.
But riding on icefree roads a bit to fast I lost the spikes in the middel.
No repair possible.
The second time I made my own, MX tyres with long nobbies and 4-5mm screw spikes.
MX tyres are cheap, the screw spikes are expensive an you need a lot.
But, when some spikes are lost just put new ones in or when the tyre is done, unscrew all the good spikes and use them on the next MX tyre.

have fun in the ice and cold
sushi

[Tiger3]

Originally Posted by sushi2831

Hello

I did two short trips in the south till Trondheim/Ostersund.
First in Dez14 and then in Feb16.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...542#post551366

On both trips the E6 was a problem with the snow, just to much traffic, it's cleared itself.

Use small sideroutes and stay away from the coast.
I had better conditions in Sweden, a bit North of Karlstad the snow stayed on the road.

North of Trondheim/Ostersund it`s probably good.
Have a lock at https://www.vegvesen.no/trafikkinfor...nger/Webkamera

For the tyres.
First I used manufactured tyres.
But riding on icefree roads a bit to fast I lost the spikes in the middel.
No repair possible.
The second time I made my own, MX tyres with long nobbies and 4-5mm screw spikes.
MX tyres are cheap, the screw spikes are expensive an you need a lot.
But, when some spikes are lost just put new ones in or when the tyre is done, unscrew all the good spikes and use them on the next MX tyre.

have fun in the ice and cold
sushi

Thank you very much Sushi , for your advice I think actually go through the center, more direct and wild.
* I read everything and i post others questions

greeting

[Snakeboy]

Originally Posted by sushi2831

Hello

I did two short trips in the south till Trondheim/Ostersund.
First in Dez14 and then in Feb16.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...542#post551366

On both trips the E6 was a problem with the snow, just to much traffic, it's cleared itself.

Use small sideroutes and stay away from the coast.
I had better conditions in Sweden, a bit North of Karlstad the snow stayed on the road.

North of Trondheim/Ostersund it`s probably good.
Have a lock at https://www.vegvesen.no/trafikkinfor...nger/Webkamera

For the tyres.
First I used manufactured tyres.
But riding on icefree roads a bit to fast I lost the spikes in the middel.
No repair possible.
The second time I made my own, MX tyres with long nobbies and 4-5mm screw spikes.
MX tyres are cheap, the screw spikes are expensive an you need a lot.
But, when some spikes are lost just put new ones in or when the tyre is done, unscrew all the good spikes and use them on the next MX tyre.

have fun in the ice and cold
sushi

TS asks for which roads are oftest and most thorough cleared and in Norway the road south-north that is best/oftest/most thorough cleared is the E6. Sideroads are much less often and much less thorough cleared of snow. The E6 are much more often salted and looked after in general - thus it is the safest bet for winter riding. A BMW 1200 GSA is NOT a well suited vehicle for snow ploughing uncleared minor roads in Norway during winter. And tell me why you advise TS to stay away from the coast? The coastal climate is much milder and much less prone to snow and long lasting tempratures below zero. Coastal roads would in general be much better than any inland roads in Norway during winter if snow is the biggest concern. Coastal tempratures very seldom goes below minus 5-10, while inland tempratures often sees minus 20-30 degrees, and a couple of times pr year minus 40 as the coldest.

[sushi2831]

Originally Posted by Snakeboy

TS asks for which roads are oftest and most thorough cleared and in Norway the road south-north that is best/oftest/most thorough cleared is the E6. Sideroads are much less often and much less thorough cleared of snow. The E6 are much more often salted and looked after in general - thus it is the safest bet for winter riding. A BMW 1200 GSA is NOT a well suited vehicle for snow ploughing uncleared minor roads in Norway during winter. And tell me why you advise TS to stay away from the coast? The coastal climate is much milder and much less prone to snow and long lasting tempratures below zero. Coastal roads would in general be much better than any inland roads in Norway during winter if snow is the biggest concern. Coastal tempratures very seldom goes below minus 5-10, while inland tempratures often sees minus 20-30 degrees, and a couple of times pr year minus 40 as the coldest.

Hello
Very simpel answer:

Originally Posted by sushi2831

Rubber on snow/ice = no grip, very dangerous
Spikes on tarmac = some grip, like street tyres on gravel
Spikes on snow/ice = fun, fun, fun

Once you have spikes you need snow and ice on the road.
"Nordkapp and kirkenes in Winter" on two weehls without spikes is suicide.

Originally Posted by Tiger3

winter oil :0W.40

Implies to me, not planning on a warm sunday afternoon ride.


sushi


P.S.
I would advise a lighter and less expensive bike, but only Tiger3 knows his riding limits and how much loss in value he can live with.

[Snakeboy]

Originally Posted by sushi2831

Hello
Very simpel answer:

Once you have spikes you need snow and ice on the road.
"Nordkapp and kirkenes in Winter" on two weehls without spikes is suicide.



Implies to me, not planning on a warm sunday afternoon ride.


sushi


P.S.
I would advise a lighter and less expensive bike, but only Tiger3 knows his riding limits and how much loss in value he can live with.

Rubber on snow/ice is quite fine if youre used to it - but thats on a small light bike. I rode bikes every day during winter when I was 15-16-17 and Im from a few hundred kms north of the artic circle. But I wouldnt recommend a 1200 GSA rider to do it. And I doubt a 1200 GSA loaded would be any fun even with spikes... But ok - I see your point.

[Tiger3]

Good evening,
Don't worry I am not a beginner traveler I know to turn around for my bike or for me
Thank you for your answers.
I know that Walkyrie (my 1200GS) is not the lightest.
I will be equipped with ski fixed on the motorcycle and studded tires. I plan an oil has 0w40 and an odyssey battery.
to sleep I provide equipment -40 comfort. and electric heating equipment

I do not want to have too much road traffic, but not roads that you do not see where i drive for many many and many km (lol)
.
The nails quickly wear on the alphate road.

I would like to use "secondary roads". Frederiksshavn /
Göteborg Vänersborg Mora sveg östersund strömsund Mo iRana (norway) then Narvick and Nordkapp
Or Frederiksshavn / Oslo Hamar Elverum Ulsberg Trondheim then Nordkapp.
I want to ride without too much ferry to wait.
other question, the border Kirkenes / Storskog is open all the time?
Thank you for your opinions.

[Tiger3]

https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.p...0823213617.jpg

This my helmet (bombardier BVS ) and jacket (i have one rukka below)
For my Gs mitas E 09 with nails, and sky
For sleep, hillberd nammagt Gt2 and warmth (-20/-40 and thermolite reator extrème +10°)

[sushi2831]

Originally Posted by Tiger3

For my Gs mitas E 09 with nails

Hello


I bought my first set of tyres here:
MEFO SHOP
It's german but Google might help to translate.


After the trip I had to replace the rear tyre.
I used no. 1500 "Best Grip" screw spikes on a MX tyre (Mitas C02)
(Stud penetration into the rubber 13.5mm)
All products | Bestgrip Power Studs


sushi

[Snakeboy]

Originally Posted by Tiger3

Good evening,
Don't worry I am not a beginner traveler I know to turn around for my bike or for me
Thank you for your answers.
I know that Walkyrie (my 1200GS) is not the lightest.
I will be equipped with ski fixed on the motorcycle and studded tires. I plan an oil has 0w40 and an odyssey battery.
to sleep I provide equipment -40 comfort. and electric heating equipment

I do not want to have too much road traffic, but not roads that you do not see where i drive for many many and many km (lol)
.
The nails quickly wear on the alphate road.

I would like to use "secondary roads". Frederiksshavn /
Göteborg Vänersborg Mora sveg östersund strömsund Mo iRana (norway) then Narvick and Nordkapp
Or Frederiksshavn / Oslo Hamar Elverum Ulsberg Trondheim then Nordkapp.
I want to ride without too much ferry to wait.
other question, the border Kirkenes / Storskog is open all the time?
Thank you for your opinions.

The borderstation Storskog is open every day from 7 to 21.

[AnTyx]

Originally Posted by Tiger3

I would like to know where I can buy studded tubular tires.
At Larvick or Jökoping or other twon. (in France it's prohibited)

You can most likely pre-order and have them shipped to a tire station in any major place out there. Just talk to people, call up on the phone.

1 ° itinerary by Norway:
Hirtshals / Larvick / Oslo / Lillehammer / Trondheim / Narvik / and Nordkapp
Which roads are most often cleared?
For you how many days i need in winter in good weather condition (of course).

The E6 will be cleared the whole way but you will be in traffic with heavy goods vehicles, and it will just be Not Fun.
Some of the fjord ferries may simply not run in the winter. But for example the road from Narvik to Kiruna and on to the main Swedish highway network should be open.

In the summer I would say... half day Oslo-Lillehammer (I recommend the hostel in the train station, got a great deal on a comfy room there), 1 day Lillehammer-Trondheim, two days Trondheim-Bodo, one day via Lofoten to Andenes, one day Andenes-Gryllefjord-Tromso, one day Tromso-Alta-Nordkapp. So seven days. In the winter... nine-ten I guess?

2. By Sweden and Finland, the road is so practicable for a motorcycle and what average temperature? Odense Kobenhavn / Jönkoping / Uppsala / Sundsvall / Uméa / Rovaniemi Ivalo / Nordkapp / kirkenes.
For you how many days i need in winter in good weather condition (of course).

In the summer I actually did Rovaniemi-Kiruna-Narvik in... about 7 hours of fast riding. (Got off the train at 8am, was in Arctic Animal Park before 15, but with one hour's time zone change.)

However, Sweden will be boring. Long flat straight country. Fast, safe, nothing to see. I would recommend a ferry from Rostock to Helsinki, then a car train from Helsinki to Kolari or Rovaniemi, depending on where the train goes that day. From both points, you get to Nordkapp in one day in the summer, so two days in the winter, and a lot less traffic than the E6.

If it's so difficult and/or i m tired , i take ferry to go back.

Yes, you can take the Hurtigruten from Nordkapp/Kirkenes pretty much all the way down to southern Norway.