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Photo by Ulrike Hahnel, Rock Formations on the Lagune Route, Bolivia

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Hi all,
On March 29th I'm going to start my Round The World trip from Warsaw.
My path leads througth
1 Europe/Asia 29.03 – 23.05
Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Turkey, Iran, Emirates (Dubaj) ->flight to India (Mombaj), India (Kalkuta) -> flight to Thailand (Bangkok), Wietnam, Laos, Thailand, Malesia, Indonesia (Jakarta) -> flight to Australia (Melbourne)
2 Austarlia 24.05 – 10.06
Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane, Alice Springs, Ayers Rock, Melbourne -> flight to Canada (Vancuver)
3 America 11.06 – 10.10
US from West to East and back along south coast to Mexico, Belize, Gwatemala, HondurAS, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama -> ferry to Columbia (Cartagena), Equador, Peru, Boliva, Chile, Argentina, Brasil, Urugwaj, Argentina (Buenos Aires) -> flight to South Africa (Cape Town)
4 Africa 11.10 – 21.11
South Africa, Namibia, Zambia, Tanzania, Rwanda, Uganda, Kenia, Etiopia (Addis Abeba) -> flight to Europe (Brussels)
5 Europe 22.11 – 25.11
Belgium, The Nederlandes, Germany to Poland.

If there is somebody who want/can join the trip or part of it – very welcome :-) 

I would appreciate also your tips especially for motorbike transfers and documentation.
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Safe travels, do you plan to write a ride report maybe, will watch closely

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Hi Bobesz and welcome,
You seem to have quite ambitious plans and my experience is having ridden most of the places that you hope to is that it never goes to plan. This looks like a route for three or four years travel, possible in two but not 8 months if I read this correctly.
There is no time allowed for shipping your bike, air freight is not always available, customs clearance can take between a few hour and several days, both yourself and your bike will breakdown which can takes days or weeks for recovery of yourself or repair of your bike and it does not take into account seasons and weather conditions which can make some places impassible at times.
Apart from that you will be missing what to many is the main reason for travel, to see foreign places and experience different cultures, I would suggest you read a few ride reports and see the pace most people travel at, in the time you have allowed most people will have reached Southeast Asia or Australia, no further.
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Wow, that's quite an itinerary for such a short time.

We are on a similar trip route from UK to Australia and we set off in July 2015. We are currently in North Sumatra, Indonesia awaiting the shipping of our bike from Malaysia (it's at port awaiting clearance - been here 4 days already!).

It has taken us 8 months to get here and we have been rushing a lot of the time and have had to miss some things that we wanted to see because we did not have time. One word of advice is to slow down and take in the surroundings, culture and people. Going so fast you will not see anything just the road, and you will not enjoy the trip.

While you may be able to do a lot of km in Europe, once you get to Iran, India and beyond you will not be able to go so fast. We were rushing to get up to North East India from Hyderabad and it took us over a week to do 2000km riding 12 hour days into the dark through crazy traffic. It was not good for us or the bike and you end up suffering and get ill due to tiredness. we needed a week off to recover.

Your Australia section alone is over 7000km and will mean you will have to do over 400km per day everyday. We are trying to work out Australia at the minute and are worried that we will not have enough time to do what you are doing in 3 months!

I also don't know if Vietnam will be possible with your bike, for us it was not without a guide but some others have been able to get in.

You also need to allow time for other things like sickness, breakdowns & repairs, servicing, shipping, borders, visas etc. You can waste a day at a border in some places and if you get sick you need to recover. Be prepared to wait when shipping also, you need to factor in at least a few days at either side.

We got stuck waiting for parts for 2 weeks and that altered our plan as we were on a tight schedule at the start of our trip.

On our trip we met a couple of people who planned EU to Australia in 8/9 months and they couldn't keep it up it as it was putting too much strain on them and their machines. They decided to slow down and embrace the experience, instead of racing everywhere and really started to enjoy their trips.

I don't want to seem negative but in 8 months I would not attempt to do more than EU to Australia otherwise you will feel like you have not seen anything at all.

Everyone is different and I hope you have a good trip, I am interested to see how you get on and if you have any specific questions about borders, countries, paperwork etc. let me know.

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Dear All,
thanks for your opinions and cautions. I am aware that this plan looks quite crazy but I want to face it. I don't know if I succeed but I must try.
I appreciate very much people who travel RTW long months and years trying not to miss anything. Its probably fantastic to spend some hours contemplating breathtaking views of nature or socialise with inhabitants of small villages more than one evening.
But is not my way, I'am a kid of rush, I don't like to seat arround more than fiew hours. As <<pheasant56>> said everyone is different so I will be grateful for all your advices which can help me to execute my plan.
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If you get to Bangkok, let me know, I can't give you anywhere to sleep as my partner and I are only in a one room apartment but we can meet up for food and drink
All the best with the trip

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If you get to Bangkok, let me know, I can't give you anywhere to sleep as my partner and I are only in a one room apartment but we can meet up for food and drink
All the best with the trip

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Thanks, I will write before departure from Kolkata

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Are you still starting your trip in 4 days?

Good luck with the riding and hope to see you in BKK

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Are you still starting your trip in 4 days?

Good luck with the riding and hope to see you in BKK

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Estimated Day of my arrival to Bankok is 29th of April
Ok Bobesz, Just to let you know I am going in to Laos on the 1st to the 4th May to renew my visa so I hope you make it, keep me informed, I live on Sukhumvit Road, Soi 22 to give you an idea of the area to come to
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Ok Bobesz, Just to let you know I am going in to Laos on the 1st to the 4th May to renew my visa so I hope you make it, keep me informed, I live on Sukhumvit Road, Soi 22 to give you an idea of the area to come to
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So we will probably meet in the middle of May. My plan also includes Laos
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Hello!
My trip takes aldeady over 40 days. Now I am in Vietnam. It is possible to drive your own bike but permision is needed to arrange in advance (the latest time to send final documents is 3 weeks before). I am driving on my own without guide. the only thing is I had to meet guide at the entrance border to collect permit and exit border (I have time limited due to local election)

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How was finaly your transfer from Malesia to Indonesia?
Please advice about company you took and schedule information. Soon I will take ferry same direction.


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Wow, that's quite an itinerary for such a short time.

We are on a similar trip route from UK to Australia and we set off in July 2015. We are currently in North Sumatra, Indonesia awaiting the shipping of our bike from Malaysia (it's at port awaiting clearance - been here 4 days already!).

It has taken us 8 months to get here and we have been rushing a lot of the time and have had to miss some things that we wanted to see because we did not have time. One word of advice is to slow down and take in the surroundings, culture and people. Going so fast you will not see anything just the road, and you will not enjoy the trip.

While you may be able to do a lot of km in Europe, once you get to Iran, India and beyond you will not be able to go so fast. We were rushing to get up to North East India from Hyderabad and it took us over a week to do 2000km riding 12 hour days into the dark through crazy traffic. It was not good for us or the bike and you end up suffering and get ill due to tiredness. we needed a week off to recover.

Your Australia section alone is over 7000km and will mean you will have to do over 400km per day everyday. We are trying to work out Australia at the minute and are worried that we will not have enough time to do what you are doing in 3 months!

I also don't know if Vietnam will be possible with your bike, for us it was not without a guide but some others have been able to get in.

You also need to allow time for other things like sickness, breakdowns & repairs, servicing, shipping, borders, visas etc. You can waste a day at a border in some places and if you get sick you need to recover. Be prepared to wait when shipping also, you need to factor in at least a few days at either side.

We got stuck waiting for parts for 2 weeks and that altered our plan as we were on a tight schedule at the start of our trip.

On our trip we met a couple of people who planned EU to Australia in 8/9 months and they couldn't keep it up it as it was putting too much strain on them and their machines. They decided to slow down and embrace the experience, instead of racing everywhere and really started to enjoy their trips.

I don't want to seem negative but in 8 months I would not attempt to do more than EU to Australia otherwise you will feel like you have not seen anything at all.

Everyone is different and I hope you have a good trip, I am interested to see how you get on and if you have any specific questions about borders, countries, paperwork etc. let me know.

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