Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > North Africa
North Africa Topics specific to North Africa and the Sahara down to the 17th parallel (excludes Morocco)
Photo by Ulrike Hahnel, Rock Formations on the Lagune Route, Bolivia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Ulrike Hahnel,
Rock Formations on the
Lagune Route, Bolivia



Trans Sahara Routes.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 28 May 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Cologne, Germany
Posts: 29
Smile Anyone done Djanet–Tamanrasset in 2 wheel drive

Anyone done Taleb Larbi - Djanet - Serouenout - Tamanrasset - In Guezzam (Algeria) route recently in a 2 wheel drive car, I’m drive down to Nigeria mid December this year (2007) in a Peugeot 505 and would like to get an idea of how the route looks like especially between Djanet – Tamanrasset. Pictures of the piste would be helpful (tundeadu@hotmail.com), so I can decide if it would be absolutely necessary to do any serious modifications to my Peugeot 505 i.e increase the height and fit a bash plate.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 28 May 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 921
okay

I have not done it myself, but know that many, many people have. It's easy (particularly with a good guide to avoid the softer stuff).

Tam-In Guezzam is mostly tarmac now as well.

Sam.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 30 May 2007
AliBaba's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Norway
Posts: 1,379
Personally I wouldn’t have used my car (505) for Djanet-Tam. Most of the piste is easy but when you get close to Ideles there are some steep riverbeds with large rocks.

When it comes to Tam-Arlit I guess it depends of where you meet the dunes (I guess they still are there?) You might come into huge tracks in soft sand but you will probably find someone that can help you if you get any problems.

I only have picture of the easier parts on the Djanet-Tam piste:


At least one 2WD has failed :-)


Halfway to Ideles:






Close to Ideles:
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 30 May 2007
Chris Scott's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,894
The problem with a 2WD is that you have to attack some sections steep or soft to get through - and this is where you can damage the car. Or join up with a 4WD for the crossing then you can take it easy and not worry about getting stuck.

I have done this route several times using 2WD 98.32% of the time - but in a 4WD car. The ground clearance (helped with a meaty engine) counts for much more than 4WD so I would go with a 4WD - or raise height and fit bashplate (mine was 5mm, thick, ran from gearbox to rad and wishbone to wishbone)- or take the highway (or bring some epoxy glue).

Ch
Tips on preparing 2WDs for Sahara piste here:
Sahara Overland ~ the book and online resource

Last edited by Chris Scott; 1 Jun 2007 at 09:19.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 30 May 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Montreuil
Posts: 26
2wd Tam-Djanet

Hey , Tunde,

I travelled a lot in these countries with:
R4 - Tanezrouft-Mali- Agades Bilma Djanet.... - Very good car
VW Cox : a lot and across Ténéré - the best car for désert
Mini Moke: I had to go trough the Oued before djanet in the reverse gear otherwise it could not be done.

A 505 is enough strong to go this way, especially with higher tyres.

Yves
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 1 Jun 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Cologne, Germany
Posts: 29
Thumbs up Thanks

Thanks to you all for your replies, it gives reassurance that I can do the trip in a 2 wheel drive car.
The pictures of the easier parts at least give an idea of what to expect in the easier areas, worrying later of over the harder parts. nice pictures!
I would be raising the height slightly be changing the tyres from the standard 195/60 R15 to 205/62 R15 (side walls reinforced) which is the maxi size I can fit without touching anything. Changing the springs and adding rubber bump I only want to do if it’s absolutely necessary?
I intend to try and make a bash plate myself; Chris is there a minimum thickness for the metal plate that you would recommend.

Tunde
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 1 Jun 2007
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bonn, Germany
Posts: 34
Hi Tunde,

I wonder why you hesitate to raise the ground clearance of your car by adding spacers (spring distance kits). I think ground clearance is crucial when travelling dirt roads.
I used the alloy spacers made by weitec, these are widely available in Germany, not very expensvive (look out at ebay) and even TÜV approved, besides next time I would use even bigger spacers.
Changing the springs and the shocks is an much more radical modification of the car, potentially affecting the way the cars handles in critical situation (on European motorways.)

All the best from Bonn

Hans
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WARNING: USB Flash Drive users beware Ian Bradshaw Communications 9 27 Jul 2007 00:49
2 Wheel Drive Yamaha Chris of Motocross Africa Yamaha Tech 5 15 Jan 2007 22:08
1200s - Check your Final Drive Bolt ! paulwebac BMW Tech 0 8 May 2005 22:25
2 wheel drive KTM Sam Rutherford KTM Tech 2 15 Jul 2004 00:54
Limited slip differentials in sand? Robbert North Africa 7 9 Jan 2003 00:29

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

  • California: April 18-21
  • Virginia: April 25-28
  • Germany Summer: May 9-12
  • Québec: May 17-19
  • Bulgaria Mini: July 5-7
  • CanWest: July 11-14
  • Switzerland: August 15-18
  • Ecuador: August 23-25
  • Romania: August 30-Sept 1
  • Austria: September 12-15
  • France: September 20-22
  • Germany Autumn: Oct 31-Nov 3

2025 Confirmed Events:

  • Virginia: April 24-27 2025
  • Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
  • Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
  • CanWest: July 10-13 2025
  • Switzerland: Date TBC
  • Ecuador: Date TBC
  • Romania: Date TBC
  • Austria: Sept. 11-15
  • California: September 18-21
  • France: September 19-21 2025
  • Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:35.