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tablet vs GPS
Rather than buying a replacement GPS I'm thinking about using a Tablet, Has anyone tried this? what tablet and what mapping did you use?
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Would depend on what mapping was available.
I came across a guy recently in Tasmania Australia that was using an iPad mini in a waterproof case and handle bar mount, that was running some very good mapping for the area. (Mud maps app)
Was a great setup.
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Ipad(mini) can do the job, provided you're satisfied with stock maps. You could try MapswithMe, offline OSM maps. It'll tell you where you are, but no tracks, waypoints or custom maps....
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We did a transafrica, using the ipad for navigation. Worked well! You can find more about in my blog.
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Originally Posted by moggy 1968
Rather than buying a replacement GPS I'm thinking about using a Tablet, Has anyone tried this? what tablet and what mapping did you use?
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Would I be right in thinking that the mapping apps that work on Android smartphones will also work when mounted on android tablets?
Ditto for mapping apps between iphones and iPads?
This thread has given me this understanding, or is this a too-simplistic-misunderstanding??
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...armin-et-63191
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Originally Posted by Walkabout
Would I be right in thinking that the mapping apps that work on Android smartphones will also work when mounted on android tablets?
Ditto for mapping apps between iphones and iPads?
This thread has given me this understanding, or is this a too-simplistic-misunderstanding??
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...armin-et-63191
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That thread tends to overflow - with both information and emotion...
But in answer to you question - you posess sound reasoning 
Most/many navigation apps for phones will work just fine on tablets, some might have resolution upscaling problems, but will be workable. Since there's so many free apps available you'll always find one that works for you.
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You have to compare how you want to navigate. It dosnt matter if you use Android/iOS Devices (Smartphone / Tablets)
You can buy Apps who are for road navigation (Point to Point (in 100meters turn left please)). Navigon, TomTom and so on will do that, like a Garmin Nuvi Device. These Apps do working offline (no 3G Dataconnection required)
You can buy Apps for Offroad Navigation, to store Maps/Topo/Satelite Images into the cache or download them by region. Usually they dont have a Point-to Point navigation, but you can see where you are. Some work offline, some not.
Also there are Apps for Trackrecording, following tracks you have downloaded and so on. You can run several apps simultane - but you can view only one at a time.
There is nothing what a Smartdevice cant do, what a dedicated GPS can do, when you ask me.
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I use a Tablet for navigation, Windows OS connected to a blue tooth Garmin GPS, I also bought a cheapo USB number keyboard, so I can scroll in and out on the maps without taking my eyes off the road.
Installed Mapping Software.
Garmin
Mapsource
nRoute
City Navigator Europe NT
other
Oalf
OSM
Memory Map
nRoute is so versatile, I cannot think of anything better.
The screen is not the brightest on this model, so I have just bought a recon Dell Windows 10" Tablet which I will play with next week.
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yep, that's the kind of thing.
thanks for all the replies, some useful info in there
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Originally Posted by reallybigtruck
That thread tends to overflow - with both information and emotion...
But in answer to you question - you posess sound reasoning 
Most/many navigation apps for phones will work just fine on tablets, some might have resolution upscaling problems, but will be workable. Since there's so many free apps available you'll always find one that works for you.
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Thanks for the confirmation; as a result I have just started to experiment with maps on a Nexus 7 tablet - navfree is the first experimental software, downloaded from the Google playstore, and it's free!
Also, navfree appears to be totally based on OSM.
Google play seems to have a wide range of free mapping software + some that require payment.
It's early days for me but the UK map works just fine on my two week old tablet.
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Reason: what I thought was called mapfree = navfree in fact
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Also check OsmAnd, seems to be one of the default app choices for OSM maps and is open source.
The free version allows you to download up to 10 regions, and it's quite user friendly.
Where I am now, the offline OSM vector map is a lot more accurate than Google maps, the only better map I have found is a country specific collaborative Garmin-compatible map.
I reckon the tablet could work fine in a 4-wheeler, I still prefer a GPS like the Garmin Montana (or the new Android one that uses the Montana hardware) for durability and ability to be used on the bike, hiking, and boating.
Another question: why a tablet? There are relatively cheap and powerful Android phones available with screens from 4.3" to 6.5" which are possibly more robust and flexible. There are probably more mounting options for the more standard sizes.
It could also provide a backup to your dedicated phone, assuming you take one. Most of the better Android chinaphones allow for 2 or more sim cards to be installed, quite useful if you are traveling in are where coverage varies by network, or where you may want one card with a data plan, and another with a call/SMS option.
You can also get apps that will allow the phone to serve as the GPS to a Bluetooth laptop or tablet.
Having said that, some of the phones I've tried have poor GPS reception, taking a long time to get a satellite lock, and also battling in mountains, forests and built up urban areas.
In that case I often use a bluetooth GPS tracker dongle/mouse instead of the onboard GPS. It seems as powerful as the dedicated GPS systems, and gets 25 to 40 hours on a charge.
It also works with my Android tablets (2.3 and 4.0) and my Windows laptop.
Another advantage with the bluetooth tracker is that it is small and easier to mount where it can pick up a good signal, letting you position the phone / tablet for optimal viewing and safety. It also helps keep the phone / tablet out of the sun, high temperature is a killer for many devices and batteries.
The tracker I am using is an older Qstarz BT1000Q , and I use Bluetooth GPS Tracker from Argotronic (IIRC) to connect it to my Android phone and tablet. That app seems the most reliable of the 3 or 4 I have tried.
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I've got an HTC phone at the moment, and I have to say, the mapping is utter rubbish and it takes far too long to sort itself out, it's a last resort. Also the screen is too small for me. Because of cataract surgery leaving my eyes no ability to accommodate for different distances the map has to be far enough away that I can see it with my distance glasses, over 60cm away, so a phone screen is just too small. A 7 inch screen is really the minimum but with a bit of experimentation I am thinking something larger may be nice to get more area on a page. The apple IPAD mini seems ideal but not keen on going down the apple route due to the lack of third party apps, although some might see that as a bonus!
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I've got an HTC phone at the moment, and I have to say, the mapping is utter rubbish and it takes far too long to sort itself out, it's a last resort. Also the screen is too small for me. Because of cataract surgery leaving my eyes no ability to accommodate for different distances the map has to be far enough away that I can see it with my distance glasses, over 60cm away, so a phone screen is just too small. A 7 inch screen is really the minimum but with a bit of experimentation I am thinking something larger may be nice to get more area on a page. The apple IPAD mini seems ideal but not keen on going down the apple route due to the lack of third party apps, although some might see that as a bonus!
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I'm not clear if you are pinning the issues on the HTC phone, the small screens of mobile phones in general, or the particular mapping software that you are using (which vary in their display).
I agree about small screens which is why I settled on a 7" screen as the minimum size that I am prepared to use - the google nexus has a particularly good pixel quality - it is not quite up to the standard of the latest Apple products, according to online reviews, but it is near enough for me, and I could own 2 or 3 Nexus 7s for the price of one iPad.
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Just to add a little info to this...I recently got a samsung tab2 10.1 which a decent size & fits perfectly into my oxford tank bag in the map pocket. With a descreet hole I can plug it into the usb port on the bike as well.
So far I have downloaded a few offline maps from google maps and rode 200 miles today with the map displaying my area and whereabouts I was...this is basic stuff but it is the same as having a paper map in my tank pocket except I have the benefit of a little arrow telling me where I am
I think the possibilities with this are endless with the right software...looking forward to testing it further. ?.
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So far I have downloaded a few offline maps from google maps and rode 200 miles today with the map displaying my area and whereabouts I was...this is basic stuff but it is the same as having a paper map in my tank pocket except I have the benefit of a little arrow telling me where I am
I think the possibilities with this are endless with the right software...looking forward to testing it further. ?.
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Nice! Hopefully it all stays dry in a deluge - my thoughts on that are simple. Pull over and let the downpour pass by; other than that (in normal rain), I would just put the tablet into a plastic bag inside the tank bag on the basis that the inside of any tank bag cannot be expected to remain free of moisture.
Which mapping have you tried so far?
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