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Originally Posted by Bertrand
Slight correction if I may Tmotten.
A Garmin does not need a computer. It functions as a standalone unit.
If you download osm maps ( on a separate App, I have virtually the whole world in the Navigator Android App and large amounts of old albeit still mostly the best available digitally for more remote areas. Soviet Military topo maps App.
you do need access to the web once to get them.)
It runs Android apps identical to those on your phone.
When it finds an open wifi network, it checks for app updates, Garmin app updates, checks weather forecasts, updates my currency app, checks email , skype etc etc ad nauseatum!!
If you own a Monterra, powered by Android, you have zero need for a computer.
It has wifi and bluetooth capability and self checks for any system updates just as any smartphone does.
SeoulJoe, this 'recalculating-recalculating' was back in 2000! Technology has hugely moved on ( and so should you!  )
Have you thought about treating yourself to a Monterra? No need for speakers or an Ipod as the music stored on the Monterra plays back via small earphones. (tip: Bose noise cancelling ear phones are excellent!)
If you use turn-by-turn instructions, the Monterra can be set to either quieten or turn off the music when guiding instructions are spoken then resume playing the music.
And this satnav does so much more but it's not for the faint hearted!
(p.s rotten navigators always blame their satnav...  )
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Every Garmin I've had and have need(ed) a computer. And they have shat themselves whilst on a trip. The Garmin's that run android are basically evolving on the same path the phones have, starting with a GPS instead of a GSM, but over a decade behind the curve.
I don't buy the redundancy argument. Most (not all) people that travel with one, can't navigate without a GPS. Often relying on turn-by-turn navigation, relying on often old maps. Most times you only need to know in what valley you are. If there is a trail infront of your front wheel pointing in the direction you want to go, you're doing ok.
Unless you ride a 300 kg GS and you want a highway.   
Back before openstreetmap and google maps Garmin was useful because they were pretty much the only source of trackable maps. But only in developed countries. On my trip through South America in 2005 it was absolutely useless. The one before that I had an etrex and only used it once in Mongolia to check if I was roughly going the into the right valley chasing fuel. Map screen version were too expensive.
So if you are going to use openstreetmap, and you have an android device that you just upgraded (as I said, most people are not on their first android smartphone) that you already use in day to day life, why buy another that does exactly the same thing?
This thread is to try offer an alternative view and help new bike travelers save some money from buying another item they really don't need. Just like other thread provide an alternative view to set fire to that Touratech catalog. A dedicated GPS is a luxury item, and a redundant one at that. Not a must have. If your phone does the same thing, that'll do just fine.
As was said. Redundancy is a paper map. Having digital maps in you pocket just helps you carry less of them. Its much easier to zoom on a smartphone and navigate old school with a digitized "paper" topo map than it is on a Garmin. At least the ones I've had/ have.
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