Gentlemen
please keep it calm.
Welldone Ollie and Gil for trying to reduce the heat from this 'arguement', this is a forum where many people enjoy spending their free time discussing trips, overlanding, vehicles, camping etc, etc, etc.
We are all individuals and all have our personal opinions, whether that be biased one way or another it is an opinion no more no less. Please do not diss or insult someone for their choice or opinion, however, a little constructive criticism never hurt any one!
So please enjoy, respect others opinions, choices and comments - you do not have to agree, but you certainly do not have to insult anyone.
While we are at it, comments like this below do not prove anything:
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"If you want more reasons than character though, come green laning with me in Shropshire and Wales and draw your own conclusions.
Then perhaps the next day I could take my canvas off and have half a ton of gravel dropped in the back by a JCB at the garden centre (did that in the summer), doesn't matter if it gets dirty 'cos I can hose it out.
Then the next day I could fit a 8 seater dining table and chairs in it (did that yesterday!) .
Then the same motor can be taking me to the Libyan desert, pulling big lardy toyotas out of the dunes.
I can also cook pasties and croque monsieur on the engine, use my front bumper like an anvil, open

bottles with my doors, and if I bend a panel I can hit it back out with the bottom of a shoe. On top of all that, the more battered it gets the cooler it looks, it's worth more now than when I bought it six years ago, is 22 years old and will still be around in another 22.
I've got more if you want me to go on"
A Toyota 70 series pick up could do exactly the same - infact I saw a number in Africa that were used and abused, but still going 100's of ?,000's of miles later.
I met farmers, tour operators, miners, etc who swore by Toyota, Land Rover and/or Nissan/, but these were all opinions, one doesn't make another right or wrong just different.
Enjoy!!
Hope you all had a Merry Christmas and have a Happy and Prosperous New Year