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It works That is excellent , but I'm taking my Girlfriend on my pillion so with that rack stuff it won't fit her on :P.
Yes it will. The Ventura racks allow a bag to fit both ways, on the seat or behind the seat.

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I listened to all your advices and I obtained 2 gericke travelling sacks. Which you can put over your pillion
Will she be able to see with that over her ? :-)
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Yes it will. The Ventura racks allow a bag to fit both ways, on the seat or behind the seat.



Will she be able to see with that over her ? :-)
they go at the sides and r binded together over the pillion so she can sit on it and it doesn't feel awkward as you guys mentioned. Only gotta try to fit em on tightly they come close to my exhaust and if they move to much they'll burn !

I'll keep you guys updated . !
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Pillions.
Hi, I'd protect the bag on the exhaust side, expecting it to sag down in time. An alloy plate bolted on or some heat proof material strapped to the bag. Even consider putting only low value items in it incase it burns or melts. By the way, pillion, means the person on the back of the bike! Have a great time. Lindsay.
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Hi, I'd protect the bag on the exhaust side, expecting it to sag down in time. An alloy plate bolted on or some heat proof material strapped to the bag. Even consider putting only low value items in it incase it burns or melts. By the way, pillion, means the person on the back of the bike! Have a great time. Lindsay.
omy thanks for noting that out ! xD I thought it ment for my second saddle ! xD

Anyways I'll try indeed puttin on some kind of material. THing is if I drill and put some alloy against it which is easely done , I'd damage the waterproof cover from the bottom .. so I don't kinda like that Idea. But i'll try to fix something for it ! I'll make it work one way or an other
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Exhaust shield
This is what I used for heat insulation, between a soft pannier and a silencer, for a year around Africa:

A plumber's solder mat from builder's merchant/hardware shop:
Monument plumbers soldering mat,2350x :: Toolman Yardley, tools ,bahco tools, C.K,stanley tools, estwing,stabila, marshalltown, bosch, knipex, trend, irwin,draper, fluke, monument, kamasa, fisco, silverline, rothenberger, irazola screwdrivers,

And about 2 yards of propane gas tube from plumber's shop/camping caravan shop:
13mm LPG Gas Propane Hose Pipe BBQ Camping 1 Metre | eBay

wrapped into a coil like this:




Use galvanised steel wire (from B&Q or hardware shop) to keep the coil together, and to hold the coil and mat in place between pannier and the bike's side panel. Thread it through holes drilled in the side panel, around a grab handle or other convenient bit of subframe or seat.

I also used cable ties to help keep the pannier in place, threaded through holes in the solder mat. As the bike's side panel was between the solder mat and silencer they survived.

Expect the side panel to get distorted by the heat over time.
If you want to make doubly sure, you could use two solder mats, one each side of the coil.

This is what it looks like without the pannier:




And with everything in place:




It all still survives fine, including a few low-speed drops.

Have a great trip.
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This is what I used for heat insulation, between a soft pannier and a silencer, for a year around Africa:

A plumber's solder mat from builder's merchant/hardware shop:
Monument plumbers soldering mat,2350x :: Toolman Yardley, tools ,bahco tools, C.K,stanley tools, estwing,stabila, marshalltown, bosch, knipex, trend, irwin,draper, fluke, monument, kamasa, fisco, silverline, rothenberger, irazola screwdrivers,

And about 2 yards of propane gas tube from plumber's shop/camping caravan shop:
13mm LPG Gas Propane Hose Pipe BBQ Camping 1 Metre | eBay

wrapped into a coil like this:




Use galvanised steel wire (from B&Q or hardware shop) to keep the coil together, and to hold the coil and mat in place between pannier and the bike's side panel. Thread it through holes drilled in the side panel, around a grab handle or other convenient bit of subframe or seat.

I also used cable ties to help keep the pannier in place, threaded through holes in the solder mat. As the bike's side panel was between the solder mat and silencer they survived.

Expect the side panel to get distorted by the heat over time.
If you want to make doubly sure, you could use two solder mats, one each side of the coil.

This is what it looks like without the pannier:




And with everything in place:




It all still survives fine, including a few low-speed drops.

Have a great trip.

that should definetely do the trick ! If I just put the mat against my bag will it do the same trick ? or is the isolation (the hose ) needed?

Also , the solder mat won't leave stamps on my exhaust? I don't wanna sound like a noob but I've got a full chrome exhaust .. so marks on it will kinda ruin it for me when I get back and drive normal again. I'll print your post and get to the stores and try it out ! thanks a lot for the well built reply !
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Right, I just looked at some pictures of your bike.
The exhaust is completely different to what I had assumed.
The suggestion I made is for a bike with a high-level exhaust behind a plastic side-panel, where the silencer has metal 'stand-off' brackets attached to it to maintain space between it and the plastic cover.
So best ignore all that.....

For your bike you'll need a pannier that is always high enough so that it never gets near the silencer. Even fully loaded.
"Sports" panniers usually do this (like the Oxford sports range).
Or, fit a pannier frame (if one is made for this bike) that will do the same job. Maybe there's one that will go with the Ventura rack.

Either way, I'd suggest to get it all set up well before your trip, so you can test it out, fully loaded, on a ride of a day or so, with pillion passenger. You're bound to find luggage problems that'll need fixing, so best to give yourself time to get it right before leaving home.

If you're using panniers made of nylon or similar, there have been plenty of people that have ridden off on a journey only to find that the bottom of a pannier has melted from exhaust heat, and all the contents disappeared!

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