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Trucks under 6m
Hello, I've just started looking at this site as I'm becoming very interested in building a camping truck.
I've been reading most of the truck threads and most of the trucks seem to come out at around 7m, I'd preferably like to keep the total length under 6m if possible. Is this going to be possible and what sort of trucks would I be looking at and what would the maximum length of my camper box be?
I was going to go to Withams and have a look sometime this week just to get a feel for things. I'm a bit of VW nut so like the look of the Man 8.136s but the only ones I've seen for sale are on mobile.de and they seem to be a bit pricey. Is there anywhere else I can look?
Also can anyone point me in the direction of any good sites which offer advice in building the camper box or possibly designs? I was thinking of using steel box section frame and ali sheet to keep things simple. I'm not sure what thickness of box section I should be looking at?
Last question, if I bought a flat bed truck and mounted the camper box onto that would I still need a torsion free mounting or does it depend on the truck?
Thanks in advance.
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Hi Clive - I presume you have seen Chris Scott's update plus the new owners conversion:
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How many people are you building for, an Iveco daily 4x4 makes a good base truck at reasonable prices (not that i'm biased or anything)
the 8.136 is probabily the smallest of the 7.5 tonne trucks, but like you say , they are expensive
Have you asked jacksons
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I'd stay away from the reynolds boughton RB44 (5 tonnes i think)
Talk to stan about the construction of his , detailed here blog
My friend who built his 101 body did that with mild steel and glued the aluminium on (as per aircraft), its a while since i've seen the truck but the steel wasn't as big as the stuff on stans (which may have not been steel - looked a bit bright)
you need to look at the man - is it designed to twist and by how much. It is a very short truck so may twist less , but I guess some sort of frame is needed - have a look at a solid bodied one if you can find one, i can't find the photos I had of an ambulanced bodied one - or ring man , they may have a guide on body construction like the mercedes one
good luck
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Limiting length to 6m will make for a very small camper, under 4.0m.
I can speak from experience that a 7.5m vehicle with 3.9m wheelbase is quite maneuverable:
UNICAT® - TERRACROSS
Look at the vehicles at
UNICAT® - going there is half the fun
For some perspective.
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How many people are you building for, an Iveco daily 4x4 makes a good base truck at reasonable prices (not that i'm biased or anything)
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I've been pointed at an 4x4 Iveco Panel for sale for maybe about 3k. Vehicles for Sale It looks like a MWB but I'm not sure of the dimensions, any idea?
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Yep, 14k with no MOT or UK reg. I read Simon only paid 7.5 ish for his from Leaveslys which is just 10 minutes up the A38 from me. Unfortunately they don't appear to have any more and it was probably before the other people started selling them for silly money. I could get one from Denmark but would only save about a grand. I don't think I'll bother unless I can get one for about 10k.
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I'd stay away from the reynolds boughton RB44 (5 tonnes i think)
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I plan to.
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Talk to stan about the construction of his , detailed here blog
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I have contacted Stan and he kindly sent me some photos and answered some questions. At the moment though I don't have that sort of money sitting in my bank until my house sale completes. So it just depends how quick he sells it and what I decide to do.
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My friend who built his 101 body did that with mild steel and glued the aluminium on (as per aircraft), its a while since i've seen the truck but the steel wasn't as big as the stuff on stans (which may have not been steel - looked a bit bright)
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Stan's is stainless but I'd also use mild steel for my frame to save cash.
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you need to look at the man - is it designed to twist and by how much. It is a very short truck so may twist less , but I guess some sort of frame is needed - have a look at a solid bodied one if you can find one, i can't find the photos I had of an ambulanced bodied one - or ring man , they may have a guide on body construction like the mercedes one
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Stan reckons that the flatbed is mounted independantly but I'll have to look into it.
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the iveco is a swb 2.8 metre
so they are small , think of a 110 landrover but with more useable space
Mark did cut the back off a short wheelbase and mount an ex bt box on the back
if you search here you'll find his posts and link to his blog
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Stan reckons that the flatbed is mounted independantly but I'll have to look into it.
It is and even then the short MAN twisted around a whole lot off road - maybe because it's designed to. Something like MAN arrangement - or 3-pt as on Mogs - is essential when building a cabin unless you use concrete. Some don't realise this until its nearly too late (see half built fabr' pic).
What a shame the 8.1s are now going for Mog 1300 money.... A much simpler machine that does nearly as much IME.
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