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I made a jacket to use the kit. It's very simple if you have access to a sewing machine, just a waist coat of suit lining material with channels made by sewing on external "pockets" but not sewing along the bottom. The wires S up and down the channels, so they "float" rather than have tension in them and could be removed for fault finding. It's been working for three years now, so a real bargain.
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Tourmaster synergy electric jacket
had a homemade e-vest for several years...carbon fiber elements ... loved it
last year I bought a Tourmaster synergy electric jacket
excellent!!
it's like a lightly insulated nylon jacket (suitable to wear off bike), the outer layer is a very slick nylon, so it slides right under a Kilimanjaro.
delivers 76 watts (I posted actual current draws on advrider ...
ADVrider - View Single Post - Tourmaster synergy controller question )
best thing is that it comes with its own 3 level pulse controller ... no extra $75 for a controller!!!!
having heated sleeves is soooooooo nice after the vest.
paid about $155 USD last year
worth checking into
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I wonder if Warm & Safe are also providing electric jackets for Tourmaster as well as First Gear? They look similar.
Anyone know?
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I wonder if Warm & Safe are also providing electric jackets for Tourmaster as well as First Gear? They look similar.
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Either that or others have ripped of his designs again... like they did the Heat Troller.
Who said Gerbing?! 
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I had the Gerbing jacket (not the liner) back in 2006...I returned it in a month--QC issues with buttons popping off.
I bought an Aerostich Darien with the Kanetsu Windbloc heated liner. Great piece of kit and the warmest I've owned. Very bulky. Sold that...
Ended up with the Warm-n-Safe liner-much thinner, the elements get plenty warm. It's the perfect fit. Price was reasonable, about 200. I put a fleece over it, perfect all winter in New Jersey, ridden in temps in the single digits. I'm sure the Darien as the outer layer contributes...but the W-n-S liner is the ticket to keeping your core temp up...IMO.
Best of luck with the purchase.
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I use an EX02 Heatwave. As the blood all flows through the kidneys, I figured it was an efficient way to keep the major organs warm. It only draws 0.6 Amps. Around £50 GBP
HEATWAVE Heated Back Support
For using with portable battery pack select EXO² Power Pack and Charger below. If seeking to ease lower back muscle strains, whether at home, on the motorcycle or when you want to chase the chills on an outdoor walk, this is an unbeatable combination product. Heated Lower Back Support/Kidney Belt with elasticated nylon sections, hook & loop (Velcro) closure, battery pocket with DC plug connector, heated panel at the lower back and pull-forward support handles for a tighter fit.
Power Packs must be ordered separately if required - see below
Power Requirement - Back Support draws approx. 0.6Amps
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Exo2
Yes I've got an exo2 vest and the quality and finish plus the performance are all very impressive. The company are a pleasure to deal with too. Linzi.
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HEATWAVE Heated Back Support
Power Packs must be ordered separately if required - see below
Power Requirement - Back Support draws approx. 0.6Amps
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Hmmm ... separate power packs? I'd much rather use something being powered off the bike that does not run on batteries ..... that need charging,
need replacing and go dead at the worst time. IMO, 0.6 amps ain't gonna cut it. The Gerbing pulls about 6 amps. Over 15 times more heat.
I've not used this product but trust me ... you need heat in more places than just your lower back. The Gerbing when worn with thin, close fitting jersey over it, keeps the Gerbing close fitting to your body, so you get maximum heat transfer. And not just for your back but your Chest and Arms as well. You just can't imagine how much difference having warm arms make. Keeps your hands working in the cold ... really makes a difference. The Gerbing and Warm & Safe have heat wires on your Chest, Arms, and all of your back and shoulders.
One of the greatest benefits of Electric jackets is the idea that you no longer have to dress up like the Michelin Man .... Mr. Bib!  On a long trip this means less crap you have to pack, fewer bulky things to constantly peel on and off. The Gerbing is worth at least two fleece sweaters and you can ride freer with less bulk restricting movement. Nice.
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I had the Gerbing jacket (not the liner) back in 2006...I returned it in a month--QC issues with buttons popping off.
I bought an Aerostich Darien with the Kanetsu Windbloc heated liner. Great piece of kit and the warmest I've owned. Very bulky. Sold that...
Ended up with the Warm-n-Safe liner-much thinner, the elements get plenty warm. It's the perfect fit. Price was reasonable, about 200. I put a fleece over it, perfect all winter in New Jersey, ridden in temps in the single digits. I'm sure the Darien as the outer layer contributes...but the W-n-S liner is the ticket to keeping your core temp up...IMO.
Best of luck with the purchase.
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The only consistent problems with the Gerbing that I've heard about was the failed Chinese Heat Trollers copies they used for a while. Gerbing stole the Warm & Safe guy's Heat Troller design, copied his design but didn't get it right ... so lots of failures as a consequence ... I had one go bad!
I had not heard of many problems with the Electric jackets themselves. Lots of friends have them. Gerbing now use another design heat controller .... seems to be OK.
As you say, the Aerostich vest is far too bulky .... and apparently not that warm compared to a Gerbing or Warm & Safe. A vest will NEVER match
a full jacket in warmth.
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I made a jacket to use the kit. It's very simple if you have access to a sewing machine, just a waist coat of suit lining material with channels made by sewing on external "pockets" but not sewing along the bottom. The wires S up and down the channels, so they "float" rather than have tension in them and could be removed for fault finding. It's been working for three years now, so a real bargain.
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hi andy just wondering what the wire in the heated4jacket is made of?i made a similer thing from the heating wire out of a heated carseat cover but the wire was so fine it broke every time i used it.wasn't flexable an so fine,like a piece of hair....worked a treat when it di work tho 
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hi andy just wondering what the wire in the heated4jacket is made of?i made a similer thing from the heating wire out of a heated carseat cover but the wire was so fine it broke every time i used it.wasn't flexable an so fine,like a piece of hair....worked a treat when it di work tho |
Don't know the exact spec, but it's some sort of chome alloy with a plastic coating. The cable is very flexible compared to the bare element wire I used in my visor.
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