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Originally Posted by bikerz
if you are going to use any pc you are not sure of use the on screen keyboard - via the accessories - accessibility option. no keystrokes are recorded as far as I know. 
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thats right. using screen keyboard avoid all the keystore soft and hard ware.
[edit after mmaarten's post] ok at least keeps you a bit safe  anyway, the best way is to change your password occasionaly or carrying a laptop/palm/smartphone, etc.. like I do.
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on-screen keyboard
Yes, I use the on screen keyboard when not using my own pc, only to enter passwords and login-names. When I'm typing ordinary text in -say- and email, I use the pc's own keyboard. If others are interested in the usuall drivel I put in emails, that's ok by me, as long as my login and password details are safe.
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Lets be carefull out there...
Quote:
Originally Posted by ozhanu
thats right. using screen keyboard avoid all the keystore soft and hard ware.
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Unfortunatly that is not completely true.
A simple piece of software (key-scanner, keyboard-reader, what ever you
want to call it) can still read the input from the "on-screen-keyboard".
Key-strokes, wether they come from the actual keyboard or the "on-screen
version" are stored in a small memory-space (previously known as the
keystroke-buffer). There they are collected by the software we use (wether
it is MS-word, Wordperfect or Internet-explorer for webmail use).
Any other program can "read" the same keystrokes and store them in a small
file. It can even record the "active window-name" and thus determine
wether you type in a word-document or a yahoo-inlog-screen.
The only (and oldest and simplest) safeguard is to change your password
often and wisely (don't start with dodo1 and then dodo2 and then dodo3)
Maarten (ex-ict geek)
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u3?
What about u3 usb drives? I use one and have not heard anything negative as yet.
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U3
What do you think is special about U3 drives? They just allow you to run programs off the USB disk and the programs, once they are running, basically work the same as those installed on the computer hard drive. You won't get added protection from keyloggers with an U3 disk.
Another thing to mention is that a malicious program installed on a public computer can potentially silently steal/copy all your data from your USB stick, as soon as you plug it onto the host computer, plus copy additional trojan virus(es) to your USB stick in hope that you'll help to spread them to another computer. So don't carry any sensitive data that is easily accessible on your USB disk.
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I copy and paste most of my password from text that are on the gmail login screen. I hadn't thought of the screen keyboard.
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It is all the same...
Unfortunately copy and paste is also no solution. It does the exact same thing
as typing, except it does not collect key-strokes from the keyboard but from
the copy-buffer (the clip-board) and places them in the key-stroke buffer.
And... any program can read the key-stroke buffer. It has to, or your software
could not run.
Think of it this way: If your program or your yahoo or Gmail inlog-screen can
read those key-strokes, so can any other program.
Even a voice-recognition system would have the same problem.
Did you ever notice that sometimes a website asks you to type in a
"graphically concealed" string of characters. They do this to prevent automatic
systems from responding. They even have to "hide" and "distort" the
characters to prevent software from recognizing them... from the screen.
The only thing you can do is change your password regularly and choose it wisely. (not
your date of birth and not your middle name)
Maarten
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