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For my 2penneth! We were 2-up on an Africa Twin so space was an issue! It was a 6 month trip, mostly in super toasty places, but we were also in the snow line for a bit, plus bstorms/mountain fun, as well as desert and found the Vango Spirit 200+ to be tip-top.
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One entrance, but that actually didn't bother us and the vestibule was a nice size - you could fit 2 in plus gear on thermarest chairs if it was chucking down.
Easy to put up (only 3 poles) light but sturdy, with inner guy ropes for extra rigidity if needed.
Hope that helps (or hinders - sometimes too many options are even worse! we're looking at new stoves and are in a quandry now about which one to go for!)
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Another vote for the Vango, I have an "Omega 250", very like the "Spirit" but with an entrance either side of the vestibule. Very spacious and comfortable for 2 with bike gear. Mine cost only £99 on eblag.
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I have a freind who bought an REI tent I think is a half dome 2HC that has 2 doors, good rain capability, and is a good perfoming tent. I would get one, but my norht face is still dooing okay after 20 years, so I am not into buying one just to be modern. Jim and his other really like it and it was only about 180USD.
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I liked my North Face Tadpole 23 but bit tight for two people. Also used an REI tent like that mentioned earlier. Whatever you get though, keep it small and light.
You don't say where you're headed but bear in mind the % of time you'll actually be using a tent.
For example, we didn't camp between Bolivia and Costa Rica as accommodation is so cheap and there's not really any camp grounds. We could have free camped, but for that kind of money, you may as well have a room. Argentina/Chile is a different story and you'll camp a lot there. Similarly in North America and Oz mainly because rooms are too expensive.
From Oz to UK, I didn't really camp until mountains in India (once), Islamabad (twice) and the KKH (once). Then nothing till Turkey/Greece etc towards the way home. Again, you won't want to camp in SE Asia given the heat/humidity and relative cheapness of rooms.
Also bear in mind your gear will get scratched, cut, punctured, melted, soaked etc and maybe even stolen along the way so I really wouldn't recommend spending a fortune on kitting yourself out for the trip, there's plenty of bargains on Ebay etc for 2nd hand kit.
Get a  evening arranged in Edinburgh and we can all come along and overload you with information!!
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We used a Mountain Hardwear tent for three years of travels in Europe and Morocco. It was the Atrium 4, which is no longer available. We set it up and took it down around 500 times. We used it in rain and sun, wind and freeze, hail and snow and it worked fine. We have two of their fleece jackets too. This is a recommendation for their products. We have been very happy with their stuff.
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Bibler Tempest
I'm quite surprised no one has mentioned the Bibler Tempest. Black Diamond Tempest Tent 2-Person 4-Season from Backcountry.com
I've been using mine for the last five years, enough to wear out a set of poles! It's preformed flawlessly! Very waterproof and breathable single wall design, no fly to mess around with. It's kinda wierd setting up at first, but you get the hang of it in no time (the poles are inside, which is also great for hanging your laundry to dry.) It weighs just over 3 kg. and checks all the marks on your list. I have never read a bad review on this tent and highly recomend it!
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mountain hardwear trango 2
i use the mountain hardware trango 2 tent and enjoy it very much. it is an excellent tent for high altitude mountain travel, yet can be used as a base camp on a biking trip.i do a fair bit of camping/hiking/trekking and over the years have always tried to put together functional durable gear that can be used for multi purpose requirements . the trango 2 has a seperate flysheet and also has a footprint.they can be used as a tarp,as a work area,as a bed platform on warm nights when all you need are your bed roll.horses for courses but you won`t go wrong if you decide to buy one
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saw this recently and it made me laugh
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I am not about to read all responses, I'm afraid, but I will offer you what advise I can having done a 2-up trip. Sorry if it's already been said.
Initially we went with the same design that you specified and got a 2 man geodesic tent from Robert Saunders for our 2-up overland trip in South America. It was free standing and had two entrances, etc. It performed very well, but space was a premium. Basically, we never needed the two entrances and I doubt you will either when you get in the swing of things. When you pitch you will do so with one clear point of entry and exit: you don't end up needing the second one. You might once in a while but it's really not that essential.
Then, about 18 months ago, we got a dog and if the 2 man was a bit cramped before with all our kit, now it was ridiculous. Our solution was to buy a tunnel tent.
It weighs and packs down the same as the 2 man, but it is vast. Admittedly, only one entrance, not free-standing (you need good tension on the two ends to maintain the form) and probably not as solid in strong winds (but that is only relative: it does not mean it will collapse if you sneeze on it, either).
However, the atrium area is huge: as big as the sleeping area which, in turn, is already bigger than the geodesic. We have not used it in very demanding conditions yet, but we met other tunnel users when in Patagonia and they had no complaints (ever been in Patagonian wind?).
If you pitch cleverly you can off-set probably all disadvantages of a tunnel, they are quick to set-up and so spacious.
The geodesic is now my comfortable 1 man and his dog tent when I go off alone. Otherwise it's the tunnel.
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How about a cheap, easy to put up tent and a lightweight tarp? They're useful to live and work under as well as being an obvious alternative at night.
Just a thought.
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Ok after looking through a lot of tents today I think I've narrowed it down a little as to what we'll look into.
1. Mountain Hardwear Skyledge 3
2. Vaude Mark III
3. MSR Mo Room 2
4. Big Agnes Emerald Mountain SL2 with extendable vestibule
Hilleberg Staika - off the table because of the price
Mountain Hardwear Trango 2 - off the table because of the overkill 4 season (or 3 colder seasons  ) tent, longish set up, heavy
The North Face Big Fat Frog which is the follower of the famous Tad Pole - seems to be a little too small for 2 -up
The North Face Minibus 23 - thought through design but overdone a little maybe - too many things can go wrong with it and the waterproofing is not the best.
Bear in mind that it's not as if I used any of these - just sharing my thoughts with you.
@Warthog:
I don;t know why but the tunnel tents frighten us a little  It's just all about where u can use them. A freestanding tent will stand on its own and if the weather is crappy you peg it down and you're sorted. With the tunnel tent you always have to peg it down no matter what the weather is like. I think that MSR Mo Room tent is close to beeing perfect - it's built almost as if it was a tunnel tent but is freestanding thanks to one additional pole PLUS it has an extandable vestibule which makes more room for gear.
Let us know what you think,
Stay safe!
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[quote=quastdog;245931]I've been using a Trangia alcohol stove for 3 years with few complaints.
Stoves for dummies - like it! We too used a trangia, and yes, had to warm up the fuel - the last thing you need after a chilly night camping is to not get a brew going! But to find fuel (burning alcohol), esp in Morocco, was v tricky - we had to get some dodgy moonshine from under a tarp down a side alley, but at least it burned and we got to meet some great locals!!
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Originally Posted by AndyWx
@Warthog:
I don;t know why but the tunnel tents frighten us a little  It's just all about where u can use them. A freestanding tent will stand on its own and if the weather is crappy you peg it down and you're sorted. With the tunnel tent you always have to peg it down no matter what the weather is like. I think that MSR Mo Room tent is close to beeing perfect - it's built almost as if it was a tunnel tent but is freestanding thanks to one additional pole PLUS it has an extandable vestibule which makes more room for gear.
Let us know what you think,
Stay safe!
Gosia and Andy
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That is a fair point and it's your choice so yo need to be happy with it regardless what others may think. I'll be curious to see how often you are in a place where pegging down is impossible, even if it means huntng around for a spot for a bit longer, though. Still, if your heart is set on a dome type, then also have a look at Robert Saunders tents. We bought a Mountain Trek and it has been fine, albeit a little small. It has the same form as many dome tents but was far cheaper than other brands like Terra nova, North Face et al. However, they have lots of models, so you may find the shape you want, but a lot cheaper than many. I would say the Base camp, Satellite Plus, Spacepacker, or Space-Trek may be worth a look-see.
Whichever tent you decide to go for, get a good footprint (I made mine by ironing together opened out rubble bags: not pretty but it works) because tent ground sheets seem pretty flimsy these days (all the brands included!!) IMHO.
Happy hunting.
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I second the tarp option. MSR do one the TWING which is only 800 grams
Tarps are hugely versatile, you can use them as extra porch/cooking room for your tent, pack it on the top of everything and pull it out when you want a shaded siesta or a rain-sheltered lunch, suspend it over your inner tent when things are really hot to let the breezes blow, throw it over the two of you while you slide the poles into your tent in the pouring rain or sleep under it in an emergency when your free-standing tent blows away.
If you combined it with a lighter tent like MSR's 2.84kg FURY
you end up with a more versatile set up for the same weight.
One thing I'd really make sure is how long the tent takes to set up. When you're cold, wet, muddy and stood in howling wind and rain, do you want to be fiddling with complicated clip together pole systems, particularly ones which clip to the inner tent which has a nice big mosquito netting-ed "hole" in the roof.
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I've been using a Trangia alcohol stove for 3 years with few complaints. Sometimes I had to stick the alcohol burner into a warm body part to get it lit, but it always lit and worked under all conditions, altitudes, planetary alignments; and its pretty goof-proof. Stoves for Dummies! The wind-screen/burner assembly is very efficient and sturdy.
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