xt660r
I've got the h&b rear rack with the Junior top box. I have used oxford soft throwover panniers and can confirm that you don't need racks for soft luggage. The plastic exhaust protectors do a great job of keeping the bags off the exhaust. I've done 3 or 4 hour stints in summer without any problems with heat against fabric.
The rear subframe of the XT660r is as strong as the steel girders in a skyscraper (weighs the same) and you can easily put a person on the back + panniers + topbox. It does carry its weight high up though as those exhaust contribute 15kg but they can be replaced with a single can 5kg full system, which is not unsubstantial (£350 from metal mule or offtheroad.de).
Is it just me or does the XT vibrate just a little more than is comfortable???
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