Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > BMW Tech
BMW Tech BMW Tech Forum - For Questions specific and of interest to BMW riders only.
Photo by George Guille, It's going to be a long 300km... Bolivian Amazon

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by George Guille
It's going to be a long 300km...
Bolivian Amazon



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 19 Aug 2009
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: London
Posts: 68
1150GS - starter motor scretch

Dear All,

Im currently in Haines Alaska and my starter motor has developed a disconcerting screech just after the engine starts and you release the starter button. Im not overly worried, but it certainly aint right. has anyone had this problem and what are is the cause and cure?:confused1:

Many thanks in advance, Stuart.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 20 Aug 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Norwich,Ontario,Canada
Posts: 1,051
My airhead R100 had a similar screaching noise for a while . News is not good. ,after a year or so it finally packed it in. Turns out the magnets had been coming loose and were grinding on the armature.
Better have it looked at soon, probably will require a new starter motor.
__________________
http://advrider.com/index.php?thread....207964/page-5 then scroll down to post #93
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 20 Aug 2009
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 37
Hello Stuart!

I had the same problem on my 1150 adv about 40.000 km ago! After I took it apart and re greased the shaft it has been fine. The starter motor made some noise a couple of days some months down the track after greasing, but I fixed that by threatening it with replacement!! A new one from mr bmw was 1000 aud plus freight out in the bush where I was, so that was not an option!

Cheers Tom
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 20 Aug 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,598
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomlen View Post
Hello Stuart!

I had the same problem on my 1150 adv about 40.000 km ago! After I took it apart and re greased the shaft it has been fine. The starter motor made some noise a couple of days some months down the track after greasing, but I fixed that by threatening it with replacement!! A new one from mr bmw was 1000 aud plus freight out in the bush where I was, so that was not an option!

Cheers Tom
1000 aud Eek!
I think it likely that the noise is the pinion gear not freeing up after starting, so as Tomlen says, a clean and grease it may well fix it. It has for me in the past on cars. Anyway, it wont cost much to try. ATM my own starter motor is very quiet, completly dead in fact. I only check it every couple of weeks or so, or if I cant be bothered to kick start the bike. On Tuesday , all I got was a click from the starter solenoid. but no power to the starter. Maybe 500 miles in torrential rain had something to do with it. I have a new one on order ( £24.95) so hopefully will be all fixed by next week.
Tip of the week:, dont immerse a mobile phone in petrol, it dissolves ( very quickly)

Last edited by oldbmw; 20 Aug 2009 at 16:09. Reason: tripewriter malfunction
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 21 Aug 2009
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: London
Posts: 68
Thanks for the input guys I will give the grease and clean a go. Im not too stressed as I am about to retire the old girl after taking me most of the way around the world., both her and I are taking a beach break.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 31 Aug 2009
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Stockholm - Sweden
Posts: 317
Simple cause.

The support bearing in the back cover need relubrication; its dry and/or worn-out and wobbles.

Have that phenomena on my VW typ 4 van. The support bearing is a bras permanent lubricated version on the VW - and is worn out. Quite annoying!

Guess you can relubricate the bearing with the startermotor inplace as I can on the VW.
If you have time - take out the startermotor, open it and regrease the "gearbox" as well. I have yet to open a startermotor that is well greased from factory...

Is it a valeo or a bosch?

Valeo startermotors (installed on all my beemers as a "tune-up") need badly to be opened when they are brand new - since they "lack" grease in the "gearbox"... Their support bearing needs just as badly to be put in oil over night to soak-up enough since they tend to be just about as dry as the lack of grease in the other end...
__________________
Drive Safely,
Albert
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
starter motor jmrivet Yamaha Tech 0 22 Mar 2008 06:19
86 XT600Z starter motor Yobbo Yamaha Tech 11 27 Dec 2007 02:38
r 100 gs starter motor radioactiveangel BMW Tech 6 7 Dec 2006 10:25
starter motor mike thompson Yamaha Tech 1 31 May 2003 11:15
STarter Motor Problem?? OXXT Yamaha Tech 2 22 Jun 2002 16:52

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 00:50.