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Jacksons are really expensive as are Unimog's.
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L. Jackson - for Ex. MOD and NATO Disposals
when i went to wander round their site a few months ago there was about 60 ex nato u1300l unimogs, at i think £14500+vat. flat bed with three seater cabs. top speed only about 50, but faster then heavier russian stuff?? these are a 7.5ton chassis, so may be ok on a car license depending when you passed your test. (also lots of other cool stuff to dribble over! how can i get a tank transporter on the drive?!?)
pinzgauers have a rear similar to a landy with a "channel" down the middle of the back between the wheelarches giving more headroom. any big ex-military ambulance/radio cab type thing will be a perhaps overbuilt box on the rear, i'm assuming so it doesnt flatten if rolled, but mostly dont have clear standing room clearance. i'm 5'6, and with my head at an angle in the skylight of a mog ambulance i can straighten my back just.
BC Explore Unimog adventure and Off Road Travels
these folks bought a mog ambulance, converted to a camper, then after a few years lifted the roof so they could stand up!
i'm no bike mechanic, but you can stand upright in a sprinter, i wouldnt think if your main concern is fixing your bike inside you dont want to be wearing a hard hat or bashing your head.
my own mog
It's Huge!
built by the previous owners, has a double bed above the cab, giving lots of free floor space for kitchen, shower/toilet, dining area or bike bits etc, with a bit much headroom forced by the bed above cab position, also resulting in a nearly 13 feet (3.950m) high vehicle, with the floor 4'5" (1.350m) up. getting me in is ok, but a bike too? big ramp required!
good luck either way!!
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Hey Jason, I spotted that cute unimog in Dent last week ( pity you picked the dearest campsite in the yorkshire dales). was going to come over for a chat but was in a hurry - then you were gone, let me know if you get back up this way
Good luck with you travels
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'wild camping' suburbia
No-one seems to have answered your original question of suburbia 'camping'. We have a live-in truck now and as long as you don't park in the same area for nights on end then it seems to be ok. Obviously check out your chosen spot- if you're in view of a big sign saying NO OVERNIGHT PARKING, then you may only get away with a couple of nights or less. Of course it's not unknown for these signs to go missing now and again!
Quiet laybys can be interesting, we recently slept in one 15 miles north of Hull- it turned out to be a dogging hot spot. Everytime we stuck our head out the window to say we didn't have a dog, they kept coming back!
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Thanks for the replies....
I'd not twigged the fact that the Mog cab rolls forward... so that's that sorted then.
Thanks for the info about overnight camping. The area (at the moment) I had in mind is around York racecourse Monster.
I've located a couple of quite carparks and main drag to the race course is used by horse haulers during race weeks anyway and more importantly it's about 300m from the nearest house (but visible).
Normally I either hotel it or B&B it (two years and counting now), but I'd like my own space that I don't have to pack away each week now... and be able to tinker with the bike.
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Depends on the Mog.
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Originally Posted by RicTS
Thanks for the replies....
I'd not twigged the fact that the Mog cab rolls forward... so that's that sorted then.
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Worry not about the tipping cab. Charlie's is a super modern and really very nice U500.
The ones in the available from Jacksons (and the ones my budget can reach) are not tipper cabs. The U1000 and 1300 are noisy, slow, thirsty and utterly fantastic at crawling over obstacles (which you'll be doing about 0.05% of the time you're overlanding). and so high off the ground you end up with a target for international terrorism once you've put the camper body on the back.
If that's what you like why not browse through VEBEG - Das Verwertungsunternehmen des Bundes all the german ex mil stuff comes through there, and you see Mogs & MAN KATs go for considerably less than 10000 EUROS, not pounds. There are dozens of Merc 1017s available at the moment; or even cheaper and just as reliable is the Iveco 110-17 with the indestructible deutz engine (separate cylinder heads so even if one blows you just drive on without losing coolant or anything, until you can stop and bolt on a replacement). It's all done by sealed tender, but there's a list of successful bids available to give you an idea of how much to bid.
Ideally however you need time to go and look at the trucks before bidding.
I was sold on the ex mil route for price reasons, but now and then a civvy gem pops up: 1996 N Reg VOLVO FL6 4WD MANLIFT WITH KING 22M TELESCOPIC SKY LIFT. that's going to be more civilised to live with...
So nothing's written in stone.
Whatever I end up with (and that's soon I hope) I've got lots of modifications to do to get it to my spec, not least of which is extending the cab to accomodate the kids, I concluded (with the help of a friend Q ;-) that the official double cabs trucks take up way too much camper length and really restrict your choice of truck.
Happy hunting
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22 Jul 2009
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Hmmm,
Having stuffed my knee up racing, the whole racing scene and having to get the bike ready on the road is looking a bit suspect @ the mo' (i.e. family is stating....sell up you ol' gimp).
Kids are still up for camping and climbing so a camper is still on the books.
Does anyone know anything about Star 266's???., they look similar to Zil131, but a bit cleaner on the look.
I could just buy a "normal" camper.... not sure I could live with the looks though
Cheers!
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Hmmm,
Does anyone know anything about Star 266's???., they look similar to Zil131, but a bit cleaner on the look.
I could just buy a "normal" camper.... not sure I could live with the looks though
Cheers!
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This outfit in Poland is the specialist for the Star 266. They re-sell ex.mil trucks many of which have never been really used and can fettle them to make them reliable.
If you want a camper try for the incredible expanding 266! the rear expands each side to give you 30 square metres of tented space, used as a field hospital or command space etc so they can sell you the heaters etc (get's cold on the eastern front!).
Only problem is the NEVER respond to e-mails so you'll have to have a Polish speaker call them on your behalf. The man to speak to is Janusz Dunder - call him on his mobile. The guys on Zil131.com may be able to help you out here is you ask nicely.
P.W. Motodemont- STAR - RÓ¯NE MODELE
P.W. Motodemont- Star 266, Sprzêt wojskowy, T-55, BMP-1, BRDM, MTLB, P³ug wirnikowy-dmuchawa do ¦niegu
The star is of course a diesel, Zil is petrol but the Gaz 66 has the same engine, is very capable and looks like Start 266. Prices for Gaz & Zil are very low - around £1.5k should get you on six (or four x four) wheels
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hello,
have done the the following:
1. built VW LT 46 truck as an camper, and trying to fit the bike on the back...did not work out, too small and cramped end up costing 15Ke to build....also the TDI engine was disappointment, electrics...in engine managment....
2.did look into military trucks, did the math on the gasoline expenses...it would be lovely to have 4X4 but you really dont need it.
3.took route with mitsubishi fuso 4.6metric ton truck with isolated standard container on the back, now plenty of room to live and all the space that I need.
the engine is bullet proof, and the rear axle lock is mandatory with any truck....gas milage is excelent 20-25Mpg negatives are the expenses with building one (20Ke)
4. if I would do it again...put the bike on back of the good trailer JT-Trailer 750 UUSI UMPIK�RRY 2010 - TELILL� 150x300x150 cm - Kuljetuskalusto | Nettivaraosa
and decent used roomy car (your preference) to pull it...or campervan or RV, easy, cheap and working solution...
according my experience, it will take hundreds of hours to build own vehicle, with lots of money....and selling one is is a disappointment. (you never get your money back)
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