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Hi All, There have been many and numerous threads...re China. It seems there are two ways...unofficial..and official. Now I am not adverse to winging it and trusting to inginuity and luck....However having my journey of a lifetime fail halfway is not something I fancy, with that in mind I have decided the official route is the only one worth the time and the ride to the Chinese border. China for all its problems is really the only way south unless you want to ship or fly the bike. For some reason shipping the bike seems like an opportunity lost...I really would like to transit China and ride from UK to Thailand overland. Tried sorting this out last year and after a promising start ...numbers dwindled and it did not happen. So who on here has a burning desire to transit China, North to South?. In a perfect world a 4x4 and a couple of bikes would be the ideal party. So volunteers step one pace forward...I would like to exit China into Laos in late July early August. Any takers?????
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Hi Jimmy,

Just thought I'd add my route from the other thread. Me and missus will be leaving the UK in April on 2 bikes and would love to go down to Pakistan via the Karakoram Highway and Kashgar. Again, unsure of timings as we're allowing ourselves to go with the flow but at a guess I'd say late June - early July (i only say that as we're interested in attending the Polo festival on the Shandur pass - dates for 2010 yet to be confirmed).

Anyway, we're also looking for people to share the costs, so will keep an eye on this thread.
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hi there,
i'm just start to get in trouble with the china leg of my trip. i've planned to reach torugart at least on august 18 2010. but i'm already in touch with hassles before leaving. some local agencies, send me a quote about a 4 days trip from torugart to khunjerab. they say you must to pay for guide, for car driver, chinese licence & plate, and all the f++++ng rest. the cheapest quote they sent me is 1.200 Euro. they also told me the main expenses are for the bike paperwork not for the guide exc... i've subsequently asked for a different quote regarding an alternative route from kulma pass (tajikstan to china border northbound of tashkorgan). it would be a 200km stretch only to do in china. some says that border is for chinese & tajik citizens only, another one just ask me 1000 Euro to do that probably in a day... so, i'm thinking to look for a truck at the border, pick up the bike on it and try to get through and see what happen.
last but not least: shipping me & the bike from dushambè to islamabad. i do not think it will be more expensive than the chinese rip off...
otherwise, i'm always looking for who's planning to do the same thing on the same period, to share the costs and the riding.

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I have recieved quotes from several tour operators in china for north south & east west routes for 6-10 riders. No way could I get the price bellow US$6500, and that did not include accomodation or meals. Personaly I wish the monied well off would stop paying these prices and China was boycotted until such time as the government and tour operators became reasonable about allowing people to travel there.

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given that the cheapest quote found thus far is approx 1200 Euros, are we to assume that THIS is the figure that would get divided up amongst a group that decided to make the short crossing from the Stans to Pakistan via Kashgar?....

I'm sure there are plenty of more experienced members looking in on this thread who might be be able to shed more light on this from their own experience.....
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We did the route from Kyrgyzstan - Pakistan in 5 days this year. we were 4 bikes (including one scooter) and one 4wd. It cost us $550 each. And you will probably find that for each additional person they add more money, so you won't be dividing one lump sum between you.

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There are also several threads on the HUBB with all the details on it. I would recommend zyztours, who we used, as they were easily the cheapest. BUT, and it's a big but, you must remember they are not a tour guide, rather an government escort. Do not expect the China leg to be that enjoyable if you have already come from Europe without an escort.

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|i've subsequently asked for a different quote regarding an alternative route from kulma pass (tajikstan to china border northbound of tashkorgan). it would be a 200km stretch only to do in china. some says that border is for chinese & tajik citizens only, another one just ask me 1000 Euro to do that probably in a day... so, i'm thinking to look for a truck at the border, pick up the bike on it and try to get through and see what happen.
Will be interesting to see your efforts. As far as I know Kulma Pass is for Chinese&Tajik citizens... Every year I hear they will open it for rest of the world...

By the way - maybe it is the time to make a kind of appeal to the Chinese government to open normal, legal and easy ( I mean free of ton of documents) route to Pakistan? From Kulma to Khunjarab it is only 200 km! And only one ugly but easy to navigate city Tashkurgan...
Let's try to open northern way to India avoiding "unstable" Afghanistan...
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