I have searched for hours on the hubb.
I still cant find ideas on how to attach the actual aluminium pannier to the pannier frame that I will be making (not the bike frame). I would like them to have a quick release (not to thieves) if possible. Most old posts are in a foreign language or dont exixt anymore. Photos would be fantastic. Any ideas please??
Orrin

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If you make your pannier frame out of square section tubing ,you can weld some aluminium angle to your panniers that will fit over the frame .
Drill through both the frame and aluminium angle and fit a long bolt through the pair . If you have a thin strip of steel welded to the pannier frame that will hold the bolt head "captive" [ or in other words prevent it from rotating ] you can then attach the nut inside the pannier [use a wingnut if you wish].
When you lock the lid you will have prevented any access to the nut so it cannot be undone by a light fingered thief .
The beauty about this system is that you are spreading the load over a wide area and the bolts do not take any strain except of course to hold the mountings together and prevent the pannier bouncing off .

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As the other ride suggested, but instead of indenting the bolt head, weld it in place, then have the (we used 1" stainless tubing on the bottom) support hold the weight of the pannier and on the inside, instead of a nut, we have two of the ???knobs?? shaped like small wheels so the can be spun off easily. Ours looks a bit strange because we ride a scooter and the angles are not exactly straight up and down, but it works. On a dark night or with cold hands, you can still flip up the little levers that hold the wheels and spin them off and remove the pannier. A thief has no access.

Try this link Orrin... LOADs of options

Fasteners ~ Protex Fasteners Ltd

John

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EIBC would sell you a set of the poly mounts to fit their boxes I'm sure. Not the cheapest option perhaps, but they work quite well.

Matt

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on the tripplanning / bike pages is a rough page on panniers:

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/tri...e/panniers.php

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ALL old posts still exist - they all got transferred to the new HUBB - htis one - but the url is no longer valid, so you have to search. But I know it can be hard. IF there is an old full url, (it will have horizons..../ubb/... in the address) send it to me and I can get the info from the old system for you.

A simplified description that may help - a lip or ledge at the bottom or inside edge of the pannier that hooks over the lower rail of the rack, and then latches of some sort at the top to hold the pannier on. The latches can be obtained from a ships chandler - lots of yachty latches will work well and can be padlocked.

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I've got the same issue. I think I’m going with this option largely modelled on the Touratech ideology.



The idea is to tack (and get properly welded somewhere professionally as my ARC welding sucks) some SHS onto some angle section, and then get the nuts welded onto the SHS. The bolts are on the inside of the pannier. There will be 4 of these on the pannier.

The locking bracket will be upside down along the top middle of the pannier rack. This nut is welded one with the bolt not too tight with loctite. The other bolt is the removable bolt for when I want to take the pannier off. The bracket then rotates down essentially using the loctite bolt as a hinge. You can see that the locking bracket is slightly offset from the tubing with most of the gap filled in by some adhesive rubber or foam to allow for the rotation. For lateral movement I’ll just drill the tubing and stick some M10 bolts through it on either side of a few brackets to lock them in.
This should be pretty simple to construct. A bit of drilling, cutting and tacking. If you’re a better ARC welder than me, you could do the whole thing yourself.

I’m staying away from aluminium brackets as the last brackets broke in a crash. Never in the mood to try and find a TIG welder. If they are a bit heavy, I’ll use half the angle section length. The SHS is not that heavy.

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Put a sheet (10 X 30 cm) of (thin 0.5 mm) steel inside the pannier behind the
U-profile (that goes over the rack) to prevent the holes from "bulging out".
Aluminium is less "springy" then steel.

Maarten

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