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Do you wear you pants inside or out.....

of your boots??? Weird question I know, but I knew that I had big calves but I never thought I would have the problem that I now have.

I've got a pair of the BMW summer pants with the zip-off lower leg. And today I picked up a pair of Sidi crossfire boots that don't fit inside the pants. All the cross pants are worn inside the boots I know, but they are much thinner material. Wearing that cordura inside the boots is going to suck I reckon.

Anybody else with this problem that might have found a innovative solution. I'm thinking I might have to cut the pants on the inside seem and sew some extra material in it. I'll probably end up with some retro looking pair of pants.
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of your boots??? Weird question I know, but I knew that I had big calves but I never thought I would have the problem that I now have.

I've got a pair of the BMW summer pants with the zip-off lower leg. And today I picked up a pair of Sidi crossfire boots that don't fit inside the pants. All the cross pants are worn inside the boots I know, but they are much thinner material. Wearing that cordura inside the boots is going to suck I reckon.

Anybody else with this problem that might have found a innovative solution. I'm thinking I might have to cut the pants on the inside seem and sew some extra material in it. I'll probably end up with some retro looking pair of pants.

What do BMW have to say about this ?
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I thought this thread was going to be the old chestnut about how do you make your underwear last 4 days!

They're trousers I tell ya, long things with pockets in 'em.
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I thought this thread was going to be the old chestnut about how do you make your underwear last 4 days!

They're trousers I tell ya, long things with pockets in 'em.
I thought it was someone looking for Superman...

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What do BMW have to say about this ?
In my experiance, BMW do not like saying anything once they have your money. Both the company and its dealers are the least commiunicative outfit I have come across - particularly at the slightest problem with their product or its use.
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Come on guys. I'm seriously upset. I was so looking forward to those boots. I suppose it is a bit funny though.

I can't get my draggin jeans over them either. So am I meant wear shorts and knee braces?
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Come on guys. I'm seriously upset. I was so looking forward to those boots. I suppose it is a bit funny though.

I can't get my draggin jeans over them either. So am I meant wear shorts and knee braces?
haha. Thats what i ended up doing in Vietnam/Cambodia/Thailand.
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. I'm thinking I might have to cut the pants on the inside seem and sew some extra material in it. .
That's the way to go: it's called a gusset.
Any good seamstress will know what you want.
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Do you mean like this?

Is this the idea?
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Inside!

I wore my BMW Rally pants outside - kept catching the inside seam on the footpegs and ripping them out. Before that, I also crashed and shredded the fabric covering the front of the boot - probably on the same footpeg - or was it the rock I landed on?

So inside if you don't want to deal with ripped seams.
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Is this the idea?

Yes -- gussets on both seams, even better!!

Quastdog found the way to do it though - no charge for the modifications.


Seriously though, surely you are going to wear the boots and pants in whichever way they fit best - comfort & protection taken into account, but a compromise in the end?
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BMW must have a technical bulletin somewhere , I suggest you cease riding immediately , get a taxi to your nearest BMW trouser fitting specialist .Have one of their technicians diagnose your specific trouser malfunction and write a report , a trouser specialist will then send you a technical breakdown of the trouser =boot interface and suggest a remedy , an invoice will be enclosed .
However, I fear that,the report will indicate a severe breakdown of BMW loyalty which must be remedied by purchase of BMW boots specifically engineered by BMW designers and made by 3rd world automatons .
Once re-equiped you will now be ,once again, welcome in BMW social circles and your boots won't leave the wrong type of footprint on BMW showroom carpets .
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personally i tuck my trousers/jeans in my boots and have my over trousers/bike trousers on the out side so i water doesnt drip down into my boots. When just wearing jeans (proper bike ones) i leave them out, but do tuck them in if its starts to rain a bit so they are away from the dirt a bit more.
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Off Road Bike

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Motocross jeans inside boots

Winter / Wales
Enduro (Sinisalo) Trousers over my boots


Road Bike

"Power Ranger" Lethers inside boots
Cordura over my boots.

I would ditch the trousers and get some that fit. Return them as "not fit for purpose"
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BMW must have a technical bulletin somewhere , I suggest you cease riding immediately , get a taxi to your nearest BMW trouser fitting specialist .Have one of their technicians diagnose your specific trouser malfunction and write a report , a trouser specialist will then send you a technical breakdown of the trouser =boot interface and suggest a remedy , an invoice will be enclosed .
However, I fear that,the report will indicate a severe breakdown of BMW loyalty which must be remedied by purchase of BMW boots specifically engineered by BMW designers and made by 3rd world automatons .
Once re-equiped you will now be ,once again, welcome in BMW social circles and your boots won't leave the wrong type of footprint on BMW showroom carpets .
Thanks for the constructive comments. I take it if I would have not mentioned the B word you wouldn't have bothered writing anything?

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I would ditch the trousers and get some that fit. Return them as "not fit for purpose"
Nah, can't do that. It took me a lot of procrastinating to get the Beemer ones. I bought Hein Gericke zip off pants in the UK for the last trip and really liked the ability to turn them into shorts but didn't like the quality and the lining. The beemer ones don't have the lining and are therefore thinner and cooler. Plus (and I'm in Aussie and limited in gear) I could try them on. I tried the boots with my worn HG's but it didn't work. I tried my Draggin Jeans again as well, and because I got them with custom dimensions to get a 'boot' (no pun) cut and only just go over.
Anyway, long story short. I'm going to take the gusset approach (no as far as those awesome flares though) and try putting some elastic in between the seem. At least I can now compare the the size to the jeans.

I can post the result if anyone is interested. I can't believe no one else has had to deal with this. Then again, I read a lot about more road orientated boots boots like the discovery and altberg than more cross/ enduro boots.
Definately keeping the boots though. The are soooo comfortable and I'm still nursing an ankle injury after nearly 8 months.
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