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Timor to Oz container sharing in September?

Anyone going to cross from East-Timor to Australia on September?
I am planning roughly around mid September and was thinking if anyone else is there at the same time (sharing container costs).
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Here is the shipping schedule link, it changes so keep an eye out

http://www.tollgroup.com/cs/Satellit...&ssbinary=true
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Here is the shipping schedule link, it changes so keep an eye out

http://www.tollgroup.com/cs/Satellit...&ssbinary=true
Thanks Niello8
Is this the only one which is shipping between Timor and Oz?
What means OMIT in the list?
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OMIT = does not stop at Dili.
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Yep, And sometimes the boats skip dili last minute. Toll is the only option.

The contact is Lenor, she's very nice and decently responsive over email...
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Toll's business model is grouping freight to economic quantities, so its not unknown to skip a port/loading/unloading if the costs of going into the port exceed the revenue earned. With shipping they are pretty well free to do whatever they like with your freight, I would suspect that as the Australian Defence Force has reduced its presence and supplies going into Dili, the shipping frequency has declined as well. Buying goods from Australia is not a very likely scenario with the recently high valued AUS$ and is still unlikely in comparison with buying goods ex Singapore. Once the ADF has completely gone from E Timor, will there even be a reason the service ex Darwin to Dili?
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For sure, oil & gas is ramping up.
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Ok, so Toll is the only option.
I can see their "best guess" shipping dates from their homepage Toll Group - The Asian region's leading provider of integrated logistics services homeheading | Toll Group

One question: How many days before the expected shipping date my bike need to be put to a container?

Niello8: do you have an email address for Lenor?

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Oh one last question:

Have you seen anywhere in the hubb a process how to temporarily import motorcycle to Oz (meaning process in Darwin side: customs, inspection, insurance etc)?

Hoping to land to Oz in two months.

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It's about 1-2 days for loading but you can put it in the container way before that. Clearing the bike out of Timor is a breeze. Just take your carnet to the customs office at the port and they stamp it. (Make sure you get stamped IN to Timor Leste) You don't even need the bike there and you can stamp it out well before it actually leaves. Lenor's email is Lenor.Castulo@tollgroup.com. Holler if you need some coordinates

I've been told that the oz side depends on who you talk to. There's one cranky guy who will whip out the dental mirror lol.
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Ok, so Toll is the only option.
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Niello8: do you have an email address for Lenor?

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G'day Hemuli,
I'm just researching that trip in reverse to yours but I've seen a number of comments about the trip you are going to do. I spoke with Amy.Batiz at the tollgroup site. Very helpful. When coming into Australia it's apparently very important your bike is sparkling clean, no dirt or even grease. If customs deem the bike contaminated they charge a totally unreasonable fee to clean it before it's released.

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Oh one last question:

Have you seen anywhere in the hubb a process how to temporarily import motorcycle to Oz (meaning process in Darwin side: customs, inspection, insurance etc)?

Hoping to land to Oz in two months.

-Hemuli
Do you have the Carnet? I guess you will need it. Here the Carnet Process how it was for us 1 year ago:

(1st get a Sim card for your mobile. You will need to make a lot of calls. We took Telstra prepaid, pain in the a.... but the best coverage all over AU. We made a mistake and did not take the internet thing as well in the beginning, we took it too late, best there is IMO the 365 days option with 8GB)

In Darwin go 1st to the Customs House, they will stamp your Carnet (show them your BOL, for us was enough).

Contact Toll (89822018) and ask them when it will be free for Customs inspection. Ask them for the phone number of AQIS to make the appointment.

Contact AQIS and make an appointment with them for inspection. (They checked our bike completly, Airfilter, engine, all in the panniers incl Boots (even they looked in the velcro (Kreppverschluss) and inside the helmets.

Call Toll and give them the AQIS number you got and tell them when the inspection is taking place.
Make sure your appointment is b4 noon. Ours was at 2.30PM and Toll didn´t told us that they will close at 3PM, when the payment is not confirmed they will not let you leave and you have to come back a day later... Credit Card payment only, no cash! (The inspector we had was great and called his supervisor to let us out without the confirmation of payment! Great guys (as long as your bike is TOTALLY CLEAN!)

If your bike is not clean everywhere it can be really expensive and even more time consuming. You pay every started timeslot, as far as I remember we paid for that 170AUD (30 minutes, for us it took about 15 minutes but you pay every started 30mSlot) so 35 minutes will cost you already 340AUD I think)

BIKE MUST BE LIKE OUT OF THE FACTORY! NO dust, NO seeds, NOTHING! We cleaned it in Dili for a week, 10h a day! Took all apart, cleaned it and put it back together again.

We took a online insurance from Motorcycle Insurance Cover Quotes Australia - Save 25% | InsureMyRide, actually you have to register your bike somewhere... this we do next time I guess
There is a thread here somewhere with all details for insurance and registration. As we had an Africa Twin and the bike was never sold in AU it was very hard to find any insurance which will insure it. Best as well is to leave the NT and do the insurance in an different state because NT is the most expensive. You can even make an insurance only for your days in WA and make a new one when you cros the border to another state.

You can contact (PM) me if you like to have a place to stay in Darwin, this helps to get over the first shock when you arrive. After SEA it is quite diffrent to say the least. We have some good friends there.

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Thanks niello8, build and RTWbyBIKE

Good information. I have heard stories how tight the inspection is, even zippers in the riding suit need to be spotless...
I will reserve roughly one week to clean everything. Any suggestion where to clean the bike? Guesthouse or some garage?

Good information regarding the insurance! This info will save some money!
I think around 1 month from now I will be in Dili, so if anyone else is there at the same time, please contact me so we can share a container.
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Hi Hemuli, we plan to ship our bike to Aus also from Timor, though think we will probably be around a month behind you. Please let us know if for whatever reason your timings change though as we would be looking to share a container

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At the moment waiting a ferry to Kupang.
Heard that there was one today and next one should be on Friday.
Then in Kupang I will try to get Timor-Leste visa and after this will start scrubbing my bike...

So, looking for a ferry earliest 2 week from now.

Anyone else there at this time?
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