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xt600e 2002 - indicators - H E L P QUICK

Hi, Riding back from town today and noticed that my indicators were...er playing up!?!? At idle, they both work fine but as soon as i rev the engine, the rear bulbs go out and the fronts flash twice as quick. Need to sort this out now as i'm off to the HUBB Meeting in Ripley on Thursday, which is a fair old trec from Oxford without indicators.
I have just swopped out the indicator relay but it remains the same...Now thinking it could be rectifier???? I do have driving lights fitted but have disconnected these just to check...No difference????

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Could it be something as simple as a loose wire, or failing bulb?
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Have checked and cleaned connections and replaced all bulbs now......????? I don't have a multi meter and therefore can't check the rectifier, although the battery did run flat a week ago as i left the aux lights on, i don't know if that may still be a concern (clutching at straws now!)
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I'd guess the reg/rec is lunched. I had bizarre symptoms when mine went - basically, as the revs rose the voltage dropped, and caused all kinds of electrical mayhem. I'm not sure how you check them - I just replaced mine.
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Arm signals are perfectly legal to use still in the UK.

But first id check the bulbs/lamps, then the ground (earth to non electrical people).

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Ok....!! Well i have now TRIPLE CHECKED the connections and i am convinced it's the rectifier at fault.
Am i right in thinking it's located under the back of the bike?
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Im not sure on an E where it is? but under your arse (dry place) would seem to be the place to look.

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Yeb, reg/rec is under the rear fender behind the seat.
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Thanks Guys...Plugged in new rectifier and all is good..Phew..!!! Ready to shoot up to the meet in Ripley tomorrow now.

ps. Did not realise that it was legal to use hand signals? I always thought that if the bike was fitted with indicators, they had to work..!?!? Learn a new thing everyday.
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er, no... It IS legal to use hand signals BUT if the bike is fitted with indicators, they DO have to work.
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er, no... It IS legal to use hand signals BUT if the bike is fitted with indicators, they DO have to work.
So cable tie two pairs of socks over you blinkers & say "What indicators ociffer"

Easy enough to remove them, takes 15 mins & your away.

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Exclamation UK (or EU?) indicators shock

Related to some of the info' in this thread, I just read the following on a (UK) TRF website...


"Indicators are only required if you are capable of taking a pillion so no rear footpegs means you don't need them."


I do not know quite how accurate this is (anybody here know for sure?) but I found it very interesting. Anyone out there riding in the UK with pillion-footpegs but no 'winkers'???
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That was a new one on me, but it's true. It's not the usual 'if it's fitted it must be working' thing. Basically, if it's an off-road motorcycle, has no lights (i.e. a daylight-only MoT) and cannot carry a passenger, then it need not have indicators. Take off the lights, indicators and pillion pegs and you are fine, as long as you don't ride at night or in conditions of reduced visibility, like fog. As I read it, all other post-1986 bikes must have them.

Details here: MOT UK car and vehicle MOT information equipment car servicing parts and spares - indicators and hazard warning

However, that's for passing the once-yearly MoT test. What you have to have when you are actually on the road, where the Construction and Use Regs apply, may be different. It may well be that you need indicators for the MoT, but on the road you needn't have them provided you use hand signals. Not sure about this, but the rules are often illogical in these matters.
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Good info', BDZ. Going by that (linked) info', the myth would seem to be the one about indicators having to work if fitted but not having to be there on a road-bike in the first place... or rather it's the case for older bikes but not so for post-Aug'86 bikes.

So, it seems you'd have to have non-road tyres as well as no pillion 'pegs, then - in which case you'd get away with no indicators but risk having your collar felt for non-road tyres on the road. Having said that, green-laners often use non-road knobbly tyres, even though they're riding on what is legally a road (albeit non-tarmac, unmanaged).

Does anyone know the bottom line, in legal terms? Not for the MoT test but for road use.
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At a guess i's say the e mark ( uk) with regards to the tyres
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