carb adjustment for altitude

**ShaunC** · #1 18 Jan 2003

Can anyone advise on carb adjustment likely to be required on XTZ660 carb (twin choke Teikei same as XT600) at altitudes of 3000 - 5000 m? How sensitive are these carburetors to altitude change? Is dropping the needles to top groove likely to be enough or will main jet changes be required? Has anyone tried lowering the float level as an alternative to jet changes?
thnks
shaun

**FredXTZ** · #2 20 Jan 2003

It all depends also on your exhaust and air filter. A standard 660 has a very rich mixture. The first thing to do is either drill a hole in the exhaust damper end pipe or mount an other exhaust, and mount another air filter like K&N. This is reasonably ok for sea level. If you want to mess with the carb, try a smaller main jet in the 1st carb, say 124-126 instead of the standard 130 [this is for 3YF models 91-94]. I have 122 which is standard for newer models, in combination with a lifted needle in the 1st carb. by 1 pos.
For mountains upto abt. 2200 m. you can drop the needle in the 1st carb by 1 pos.
I have no experience with higher altitudes.
Remember that measuring on a test bench is always the best.

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Fred, XTZ660, Holland.

**ShaunC** · #3 21 Jan 2003

Thanks Fred, bike has a K&N filter and Micron exhaust but still with standard jetting, (130 in first carb), so should be running a bit leaner than std already.

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Originally posted by FredXTZ:
It all depends also on your exhaust and air filter. A standard 660 has a very rich mixture. The first thing to do is either drill a hole in the exhaust damper end pipe or mount an other exhaust, and mount another air filter like K&N. This is reasonably ok for sea level. If you want to mess with the carb, try a smaller main jet in the 1st carb, say 124-126 instead of the standard 130 [this is for 3YF models 91-94]. I have 122 which is standard for newer models, in combination with a lifted needle in the 1st carb. by 1 pos.
For mountains upto abt. 2200 m. you can drop the needle in the 1st carb by 1 pos.
I have no experience with higher altitudes.
Remember that measuring on a test bench is always the best.

**Bart Linders** · #4 2 Mar 2003

I've got the same question as Shaun but for an XT600E. Is it required to intstall a smaller mainjet for high altitude driving (KKH)? If so, which type? I hoped lowering the needle and taking the top of the airfilterbox will be enough?
cheers
Bart

**FredXTZ** · #5 3 Mar 2003

The main jet is only used at Wide Open Throttle. What you will mostly be using in the mountains is between 1/4 and 3/4 open, where the mixture is set by the needle. You can note when the mixture is too rich that the engine doesn't easily pick up on accelerating and sounds like an Opel GSI instead of a Toyota Corolla GT Twin Cam.
What is KKH?
I wouldn't take the top off the box because 1) it doesn't help
2) you collect dirt and/or water
Have you already mounted a K&N air filter?
Have you already modified the exhaust?

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Fred, XTZ660, Holland.

**Bart Linders** · #6 7 Mar 2003

Hi Fred
thanks for the info.
KKH = Karakoram Highway
I haven't made any modification yet as I'm first trying to find out which modifications are absolutely needed. Prefer to spend my money during the trip ;-)
Do I have to do any other (carburator-)modifications if I install a K&N filter?
Any idea how this influences fuel consumption?
Has someone experience with high altitude driving on a standard XT600E?
cheers
Bart

**FredXTZ** · #7 10 Mar 2003

Ha Bart,

you don't have to change anything when you mount a K&N air filter.
Fuel consumption should be less, if you don't get tempted to use the extra bit of power all the time.
Which model XT600E do you have?

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Fred, XTZ660, Holland.

**Bart Linders** · #8 11 Mar 2003

Hej Fred
that's good news. A modification worth to consider.
My XT: model 2002. Haven't got the bike or papers yet so no idea about right description.
Bart