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1987 XT 600 Tenere 1VJ

Just joined the Forum so Hello to everybody

I have just picked up a 1987 XT 600 Tenere in bits











As you can see it had a few things missing The bike came with 1.5 engines in a box and i seem to be able to make a whole one from the bits but i am still missing the od bracket and such from the engine. I am also missing an Airbox, pipes from to the carbs (i think it should have them) the front frame/engine mount thingy, regulator and right footpeg/brake lever.
I have found a few of these things on eblag but i would rather give money
fellow forum members than ebay. So if you have any of the above i would be interested in hearing from you.

As i said the engine is in bits, i seem to have all the parts but looking at the cost of gasket kits, tinme to rebuild and my general lazyness i was thinking of getting another complete engine and chucking that in and then rebuild the other one at my leisure. So with that in mind do the later engines go in or is there too many differances, my local breakers has a 2000 XT in but is unsure if it will fit in my 1987. Anybody any ideas?

One last question, under the tank there seems to be a very large gap between the frame spine and the tank? is the some sort of brack i am missing? looking at the pictures of Airboxes on ebay they don't seem to be the right shape to fill that space.

Many thanks in advance and sorry to be such a nagger on my 1st post.

Stuart
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Airbox!

Hi Stuart.
Yes...you're missing the airbox.
Try and find a 3AJ one - draws cold-ish air in at the back just in front of the seat peak rather than warm-ish air from the front lower part of the airbox above the engine.
Do you have the rubbers that go upwards from the carbs? 1VJ/3AJ are the same, by the way.
Did you win the Ebay 3TB in the end?
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Use a used 3TB engine, it fits...

Hi,

I have the same bike, instead of rebuilding the engine I would buy a 3TB engine and fit it in the bike... should be cheaper...

But I kept my generator of the 1VJ, because of all the electrics, if not you need all the 3 TB connectings of the cables.

Everything is possible...

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Hi Stuart.
Yes...you're missing the airbox.
Try and find a 3AJ one - draws cold-ish air in at the back just in front of the seat peak rather than warm-ish air from the front lower part of the airbox above the engine.
Do you have the rubbers that go upwards from the carbs? 1VJ/3AJ are the same, by the way.
Did you win the Ebay 3TB in the end?
David.
Hi David,

Thanks for the advice

I have the inlet rubbers from the carb to the head but not the longer pipes from the carbs to the airbox.

Don't know what you mean about the eblag thing thou?

Stu
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Hi,

I have the same bike, instead of rebuilding the engine I would buy a 3TB engine and fit it in the bike... should be cheaper...

But I kept my generator of the 1VJ, because of all the electrics, if not you need all the 3 TB connectings of the cables.

Everything is possible...

Helpful too:

[url=http://www.tenere.de]T
Jens,

Many thanks for the advice. It's nice to know my engine options are not limited to just the 1vj model.

Stu
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1VJ stuff

Hi again Stu.
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I have the inlet rubbers from the carb to the head but not the longer pipes from the carbs to the airbox.

Don't know what you mean about the eblag thing thou?
With a 1VJ, you have two engine options really.
1) Rebuild what you've got with uprated parts - give me a ring about this option! - far too much to discuss in a reply post - a 1VJ engine can be built to be more reliable than a 4PT.
2) Fit a 96 on 4PT engine - avoid the earlier 3TB engine if you can as it had the same 3AJ type gearbox & associated problems - the 3TB is better than the 1VJ/3AJ, but not much!
The Ebay thing...I thought you were someone else - I've been talking this week with a chap that had bought a similarly dismantled 1VJ! Sorry...

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Hiya there - if you decide to go for a later engine, could i persuade you to part with the bits of this one? my 1VJ has got some nasty crankcase damage around the final drive sprocket and i think that 3 repairs with chemical metal is about enough - time for new(er0 crankcases maybe?

I'm over in yorkshire and can pop over easily if that helps.

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David,

Thanks for all the info.
When i know where i am with the bike i will give you a bell. So far i have tried to get all the parts missing and failed

Went to a bike breakers yesterday and got a RH footpeg and brake lever, toolbox, sprocket cover and a front engine mount. Brilliant i thought untill i tried fitting them and all but the engine mount didn't fit right. So i need to go back on saturday and find some that do.

On the Tenere, does the fuel tank just bolt at the front and under the seat? there is a captive nut on the frame's spine but i don't know what it's for, there seems to be a lot of room under the tank which i thought would be for a airbox but looking at the XT600 kickstart only model yesterday it would seem the airbox is under the seat where my battery is and the battery is on the outside of the frame and is the size of a fag packet.

I could really do with another bike to look at if there are any 1987 Tenere's in the north of england???

Stu
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Picture of the void under the tank.



I took the swing arm off at the weekend to give it a clean and a rub down, the XT is looking very sorry for itself now.

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On the 1VJ model, the airbox lives under the tank, with the filter accessible from the rear with the seat removed. the captive nut on the frame is for the airbox. the tank is secured by 2 bolts at the front (one either side of the stereing stem) and 2 x 6mm screws at the rear which go through a "saddle" and into the frame. there are diverse rubbers which buffer all these bits.

There's a guy on ebay who trades as "enduro spares" and he has stuff for various xt600s - he seems to know one from the other, so it might be worth getting bits from him. there are various xt models, and yours has a smallish toolbox under the left hand side panel. other models have the airbox in this area, but on the 1vj, this area is needed for the bigger battery, so the airbox goes under the tank and the toolbox under the lhs side panel.
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The 1vj has the airbox under the tank the earlier 34l is under the seat that is what you probably looked at, good luck with the project.
I am still looking for a 1vj to replace my deceased friend i just cant find one i need it to be a good complete example though which makes thing's more difficult
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Mate, you don't by any chance have an exhaust tappet cover that you can spare? I was putting my one back on, and it just broke in half!! Cheers.
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Is that the big oval plate jobbie on the head?
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Hi, no, that's the cover for the inlet tappets. the exhaust tappet covers are individual, round and threaded with a "nut" in the middle to undo them.
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I will have a look tonight.

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