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Indonesian Air Freight - HELP!!

I need urgent help, I am trying to air freight my motorcycle out of Jakarta. I have had one cost come back with the following

- Origin Charges
: $ 1300.00, Note (with included packing)
- Export Permit
: $ 800.00

Air Freight Charges $9.10 per kg

plus the other bits and pieces. This is going to mean shipping my motorcycle is going to be well above $3000.

I have told them over and over again, I do not need to pay $800 export permit as i am under the carnet system. They said they have called people and found that I still have to pay this fee.

I am in contact with a couple of other companies, one wants to charge me $800 just for packing and a certificate of a dangerous good!

Has anyone air freighted out of Indonesia, if so who did you use?
Even if you freighted out of bali - I would like to know the company name.

and please tell me you got a better deal!
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You want to send from Jakarta to where? If it´s Oz, or Singapore/KL then +3000 USD sounds a bit steep I think.

In February 2008, we sent our DL650 from Bali to Perth with CAS Cargo Bali CAS Cargo Bali | international freight forwarder | your cargo trailer,shipping,packaging and Bali logistic service
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It is (or was) on the main road between Sanur and Kuta. Wasn´t cheap, though, I think we paid something like 1200 euros total for the bike. And they were specialized in sending stuff like furniture, so this was probably the first time they sent a motorbike, and it really showed! They were all confused with the DG-papers and some other stuff... meant a bit of going back and forth with a taxi to straighten them up. And they told me silly things like having to drain the engine oil (which I actually did, even though I knew it´s not obligatory, cos I was too tired to start wrestling with them about that!) But in the end, the shipping itself went quite okay.

I do not remember paying for any ´export permit´, and I surely would remember, if it had been anywhere near 800 dollars!

Also worth noting that our bike went crated, and only later on I hear, that maybe Qantas might accept bikes uncrated, but that was never offered as an option back then, so I don´t really know. And the crate had to be fumigated, etc. (... and even if you can send uncrated, can you send a bike to Oz without fumigation, I dont know!)

They also claimed that Garuda Indonesia had a freight limit of 50 kgs between Bali and Perth, so that didn´t suit us. And Qantas, on the other hand, operated a narrow-body plane on that route, where they could not fit our crate thru the cargo loading doors. I dont know, if these are all correct, in fact I suspect it is not 100% correct, but that was the information back then. So in the end, the bike flew from Bali to Melbourne to Perth, and flight time went from 3 hours to something like 10 hours!

But at that time, we were also in a bit of a hurry with our visas expiring (and leaving at least some time to see a little bit of Oz, before we had to get home!).... so maybe, if you´ve got more time to find out about things, you might find a better deal.

BTW, I happened to meet a couple of bikers in Indonesia, who had had serious trouble importing their bikes. The other, an Italian, lived in Bali, and had his Harley stuck in Surabaya seaport. And the other, a German, had airfreighted from somewhere to Jakarta, and more or less the same story: not able to clear the customs, even after several weeks.

The interesting thing is they both claimed they HAVE the carnet! But Jakarta airport customs had told this German guy that they´re gonna need a recommendation letter from the United Nations!!! So I would´t be too surprised, if totally weird things were happening also, when sending out of Jakarta. Never been to that airport, but somehow smells like trouble.

If you´re going to Oz, it should be possible to ride to East Timor, and send with Perkins Shipping to Darwin, that should work out cheaper I think. We were going to do just that, but the assassination attempt of their president had just happened, when we arrived in Bali, and the situation just seemed too volatile, so decided it´s better to skip it.

Just for reference, a couple months earlier on that same trip, we sent the same bike from Chennai via KL to Bangkok with Malaysia Airlines MASKargo; that was a direct flight time of about 3 hours (via KL its maybe 4-5 hours), and cost about 600 euros total for the bike.

Hope this is of any help. And please give some report as to how it worked out for you! Pekka

ps. somewhere near that cargo company (sorry I dont remember where exactly - maybe it was on the main road to Denpasar?), there was a bikers club with a lot of expats, who just might be able to help you, or at least it wouldnt hurt to ask!
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Ive just come from Australia! But Im almost thinking about returning...
I have contacted your company - thank you for that. She is going to recommend someone here in Jakarta, or i have to go back to Bali. I really do not want to have to ride back across Java!

I also thinking of changing my route, and might ship to Channai, India.

For those this this same problem, I have just found this piece of information


"Declaration of Exportation of Goods (PEB) shall not be required by Customs for certain exports activities, for example goods taken out by passengers and crew of means of transport, border crossers, vehicles which are using international document (ATA Carnet, TRIPTIEK, CPD Carnet) consignments by PT Pos Indonesia which are using Declaration En Douane (CN 23).

Indonesia

Now my fight is on... but first i need a cheaper shipping agent!

Thanks a lot.
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If you´re still planning to continue the trip, and Jakarta is giving you a headache, why not ride through Sumatra, and go with Cakra Shipping from Belawan to Penang?

We used that route (Penang to Belawan), and many others also report having used it without any major problems. Doesnt even cost a lot. From Malaysia it should be relatively easy to ship to wherever.

It is +2000 road kilometers through Sumatra though, and proceeding can be a bit of a handful sometimes. But it´s not as crowded as Java, and is strikingly beautiful - there are many wonderful, truly amazing places along the way, so plenty of reasons not to hurry too much!

(Just a thought, and without knowing what your plans really are.)
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Maxi, get your arse on a ship mate and take the bike with you. Far cheaper than trying to fly it anywhere.

Last time I was in Djakarta you could pick up cheap trans-migrasi passenger ships to Tanjung Pinang - a hop, step and a jump away from Singapore - for bugger alll, and the bike freight costs were even cheaper.

Otherwise, Pecha's set you on the right track to ride up to Sumatra and then take a boat across to Port Klang in Malaysia.

If you absolutely have to fly, then be prepared to pay megabucks for the convenience, otherwise relax and watch the ocean float by.
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Hey D Sorry to hear you are havign problems, let me know if there is anything I can do from Oz...Helen
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Hi Maxi

i am a customs broker in Melb and work for a freight forwarder

We have dealings with Indonesia and i may be able to help you

Have you considered sending the bike back via seafreight? it will take more time but will certainly be cheaper

I can also get you a better freight rate than what you have been quoted also should you wish to stick with airfreight

just email me on ismoljko@y7mail.com and can get further details from you and work out whats the best way for you if your still stuck

Cheers
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