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Old 22 Mar 2010
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Hi all,

I'll move to Germany for a new job. I would like to take my Turkish registered car for a couple of months. The question is, how long can I keep my non-eu registered car in schengen area? I assume it is 6 months, however, not sure.

secondly, I'll also buy a motorbike and travel around whenever i have time and sell it at the end of the summer.

what is the most common bike in Germany? I own v-strom 650 here and would like to buy a v-strom 650 or similar type of bike. however, i prefer a bike which can be sold easly without a big loss.

thanks in advance
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Originally Posted by ozhanu View Post
I assume it is 6 months, however, not sure.
6 months is the norm... you may get away with longer, many do.

I'll also buy a motorbike and travel around whenever i have time and sell it at the end of the summer.what is the most common bike in Germany?[/quote]

BMW GS? Was the biggest seller for a number of years, might still be.
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I don't know about the exact rules but you would be fine with the 6 month time, sounds reasonable to me, no need to change car registration as long you are registered at your home in Turkey, all depending on what sort of visa you are holding, make sure you got one explicitly for Germany and neighbouring countries!
there was a case where a few Turkish girly students had a visa for studding in Poland only and wanted to visit some friends in Hamburg/Germany over a long weekend... well they got stopped by the German border police and arrester, accused of being silent seeker regarding there Polish visa that didn't allow for all EU-countries... so make sure you are allowed to move around all of the EU or at least for the countries you want to see.

Paper wise I would strongly recommend a appropriate insurance that cover's all the EU-nations, being on the absolute safe side you may even consider to get a international driving licence of your local department.

The part of your plan to buy a bike in the EU, ride it around may get a bit tricky... on a tourist Visa, but... if you are legally working in Germany you would have in definitely a (working permission including the right to stay for a limited time which can be renewed) in that case you have to be registered with a residential address, which in turn let you register a vehicle.

good news first:
you can buy any bike.
you can get a export registration in your name including insurance on tourist visa.
you can ride the bike with your international and Turkey licence.

bad news:
the export registration only allows you 3 month to move around in Germany.

a solution...
get the bike registered on to the name of a "trusted" friend with legal residential address in Germany, can be a Turkish landsman with a so called "Aufenthaltsgenemigung" (permission of limited stay) or you may register it in your own name if you got a "Arbeitsgenemigung" (working permit that will containing a permission to stay), registered and insure the bike on German plates and you can ride around as long you like.

have a good look what your Turkish-foreign-department is recommending on there web page, I'm sure they will cover "all" your questions. A step further... yes believe it or not... regarding the large amount of Turks living in Germany you will find a lot of German governments information written and published in Turkish language as well. yes you can even make your written theoretic German driving licence on Turkish printed forms.

hope this could help a bit, have fun.. and a good time.

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one more tip...

try to get in contact with one of the many very large Turkish communities in Germany, yes the biggest of them is in Kreuzberg/Berlin, called "klein Istanbul" (little Istanbul) right in the middle of Berlin talk to the 2nd and 3rd, younger Generation of Turks living here, they know all the score how to deal with German government rules and laws, know all the tricks and what to do regarding visa, vehicles, registrations, permissions you name it...

this guys know better how to manage things than native Germans, call it the advanced way of survival knowledge in a hostile environment...

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thanks for the precious informations.

the job was offered from karlsruhe institute of technology and welcome office will help me to obtain relevant working permit, visa and other documents needed. i think the visa would be enough to ride in the alps and in the pyrenees.

i am holding uk driving licence and i think this would be enough for riding/driving in germany. i will get a green card soon for the car and will drive it 4-5 mount until i get to use live in germany. if i decided to stay more i'll buy a car there. i want to do everything legally and dont want to use tricks. i am sure there will be german authorities which could help me.

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No worries, as long as you work legally in Germany and have an address you can register and insure your bike.

Do you speak German? If you do have a look at mobile.de - Deutschlands größter Fahrzeugmarkt. Suchen, kaufen oder verkaufen Sie Neu- und Gebrauchtwagen where you'll find plenty of bikes. The tratitional top sellers are the BMW GS followed by the Suzuki Bandit 1200. However there are plenty more to choose from and it depends a lot on what kind of bike you are looking for.

I'd suggest staying with the bigger Japanese brands or maybe a Beemer or KTM. They are probably the most common bikes in Europe, so if something goes wrong you have the best chances of finding a mechanic who knows the bike well enough to help.

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