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Old 19 Oct 2005
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Carnet : Cost (multiple of bike value) in Africa

Hi Folks
I would like to know what are the most expensive African countries to get a Carnets for (primarily which countries to avoid if I skint)

I have heard Egypt is 500% and Libya is 200% the value of the bike.

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I paid 120% of vehicle value for my Carnet and it was good for Egypt and all of East Africa. It was issued by the Canadian Automobile Assoc.
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Hey,
I hate asking this question , because there is quite a bit of info about it on here...as well as something that has probably been asked a thousand times. But I cant quite understand the Carnet. Im from Canada and I have a bike worth 1000 dollars. When you get a carnet do you leave CAA with the money according to the countries you want to visit as an insurance to those countries that you will leave with the bike? Or do you actually pay the country upon boarding crossings and be reimbursed upon exit. And when people say 300%, does that mean i would have to dish out $3000 until I leave with the bike? Could you explain it using some figures, and who you give the money to? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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Could you explain it using some figures, and who you give the money to?
It varies from country to country...
For France using the French Automobile Club:

I paid €135 for the physical carnet (the sheaf of paper carnet forms)

I declared the value of the bike... I said €2000
They said this would require a €3200 deposit of cash in an account at my bank and a letter issuing to the automobile club stating that the said funds were there.
My bank was unable to draft a letter to them with the correct wording the club required so I then transfered the €3200 to them.

They issued the carnet, (including Egypt which the UK make a extra charge for), and its valid for all participating countries.

If I failed to export the bike from any country that the carnet was used to enter with, I would forfeit the money held by the auto club, (or some part thereof).

On my return, with all the entry stamps having a corresponding exit stamp, the money was returned.

Simple.

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the only one good thing on czech republic. the cost of carnet is 70€ and the deposit is only 230€ :-))
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hmmm

Ahh, I assumed it worked like that. I Heard Canada was alittle harsher with the deposit. I was going to call CAA, maybe I will do that tomorrow out of curiosity. Where they say Egypt and say India require larger percentages in regarding the bike price Im assuming this would increase the money given to the automobile club for holding? As well, the cheaper the bike, the cheaper the value used for holding? Thanks, good to hear figures from someone who has done it.

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god, if someone had a $10 000 or $15000 bike, that would be unbearably expensive.......... What I meant in my reply above about the countrys india or Egypt was: Because they say India is %400, when I call The automobile club and tell them I need a carnet for travel in India (for example), does this make the deposit larger as apposed to travelling in a country where the deposit is only %25. Thanks.
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god, if someone had a $10 000 or $15000 bike, that would be unbearably expensive.......... What I meant in my reply above about the countrys india or Egypt was: Because they say India is %400, when I call The automobile club and tell them I need a carnet for travel in India (for example), does this make the deposit larger as apposed to travelling in a country where the deposit is only %25. Thanks.
Egypt requires the most deposit - 800% I think... India and Iran follow at about 500%.

In reality, these are just figures and it depends how your auto club implements them.

My deposit of €3200 makes a mockery of the requirements for India and Egypt, yet the carnet was VALID there.

Write the value of your bike back as far as you can when applying for the carnet, they never seem to check and do not include the cost of all your mods/panniers etc.
If you carry *new* spare tyres, they should be logged but will not affect your deposit on return.

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Carnet ?

Is it possible to buy a carnet outside of your home country.
We will be riding around Europe for a few months before I head East
and if I could find one with lower prices than the Canadian issue that would
be good. One from the Czech Republic would be great.
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