Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > All Miscellaneous questions > Travellers' questions that don't fit anywhere else

Travellers' questions that don't fit anywhere else This is an opportunity to ask any question, and post any notice you wish that doesn't fit into one of the other sections.
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 23 Oct 2011
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: on the road...
Posts: 455
Language apps on mobiles/computers

Hi

I'm looking for some what used to be language cassettes (showing my age) or downloads, so listen to on my commutes

French, Spanish and Russian i'm on the look out for. I tried learning languages at school and uni, but I don't even know the difference between a verb and a noun, so I think listening would be a better way to learn than text books trying to explain language theory.


Can anyone recommend anything or any alternative ways of learning languages?
__________________
'Life begins at the end of your comfort zone'-
http://fernsforays.com/ UK to Asia on a DRZ400 2012-2013
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 24 Oct 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oxford UK
Posts: 1,015
Over the last five or six years five family members, myself included, have been trying to upgrade their language skills and have tackled French, Spanish, German, Russian, Mandarin, Japanese, German, Swedish and Arabic with various degrees of success.

Between us we've used just about every method available ranging from books, the three main language courses available as CDs etc (RosettaStone, Pimsleur, Michel Thomas), evening classes, 1 to1 tuition with native speakers and going to live in the country. We all pretty much agree that, starting from scratch, the most helpful / useful route has been using the Michel Thomas CDs. We've bought some of them and borrowed others from local library's. The introductory course (2 discs) is cheap at around £15 or so. If you get the disks and have any computer skills you can convert them to mp3 for car use.

However, I've tried listening to them in a car while driving and concluded that it doesn't really work. To get the most from them does require total concentration, something you don't have available while driving (not if you want to arrive in one bit anyway). My suggestion would be to listen to music on the commute and put some time aside in the evening when you can block out everything else.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 1 Nov 2011
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Bristol UK
Posts: 74
Although Michael Thomas does tell you not to concentrate!! But you are right, after a short while I just found I tuned those CD's out, its the same reason I dont often listen to music whilst riding.

Unfortunately there is no such thing as a free lunch, or a matrix style download of skills into your brain

I did however find I was learning basics quite quickly using a free software through Byki express, I think you need to pay for more comprehensive learning modules but I found without too much of my evening exhausted I was becoming familiar with words, structure and patterns when I was trying a little Polish.

Strangely I found I knew more of the information the following morning than immediately after the tutorial session and would spend my day uttering random phrases as I worked around the site to the bemusement of my colleagues.

So I would try combining those learning materials with things that were immersive in the language of choice, like podcasts of talk radio, spoken books etc whilst riding

good luck
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 2 Nov 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 219
Have a look for night schools in your area - my local council fund a language school which runs courses in most languages - I did Arabic for a couple of years and it only cost around £110 a term. Was much more succesful than trying to learn from a CD.
__________________
www.simba4x4.com
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 2 Nov 2011
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Seville (E) / Geneva (CH)
Posts: 534
You may try "Learn Spanish/French/Russian/etc in your car", especifically designed for that purpose.

Just a comment: nothing can substitute completely sitting and studying/doing homework, IMHO.

Good luck,

Esteban
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 3 Nov 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oxford UK
Posts: 1,015
Quote:
Originally Posted by eightpot View Post
Have a look for night schools in your area - my local council fund a language school which runs courses in most languages - I did Arabic for a couple of years and it only cost around £110 a term. Was much more succesful than trying to learn from a CD.
I've been trying to find an Arabic class round my way for a while without much success - plenty of Euro languages but that's about it. You're right though about CDs, you do need more but they are good for getting you off the ground.

Our most successful attempt (my son, learning Mandarin) used the Michel Thomas discs to start with, until he had some limited ability but enough to start taking a class. After a year or so he then went to live / work in China (teaching English) and organised 1 to 1 tuition for himself in Mandarin. The discs got him started though and gave him enough confidence to sign up for a class.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 3 Nov 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 742
As a sign of my age, I have some Pimsleur System French cassette tapes that I bought years ago which were purchased for the noble purpose of learning to speak with my girlfriend at the time. The approach seems to have been bypassed in popularity by the Rosetta Stone but is still fairly widely used.

I recently pulled them out again and low and behold, they still work.

Interestingly, I found out that the best system for using them involves...wait for it...using a Walkman.

No kidding, the tapes repeatedly prompt you for questions and when you are improving your skills it helps to stop the tape to give you time to retrieve words from memory. I also find it invaluable to stop and rewind and have the question repeated. Many times it is at such a fast speed that their words jumble together and if you don't listen to it a couple of times, you can't make the separate words out. The old cassette technology works surprising well for this.

So if you get really stuck, I can send you some tapes and an old Walkman to try it out. You can walk around town with it and the kids will you think you are really retro cool
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 5 Nov 2011
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: RTW, From Vancouver BC 2012
Posts: 640
podcasts

There are a ton of free podcast you can download to your computer or IPOD of of I tunes! We are leaning Spanish. sara
__________________
Sara

Those who say something is impossible should not hinder those who are achieving it!






www.worldwideride.ca

HU RR Finding Freedom...World Wide Ride
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10 Nov 2011
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: on the road...
Posts: 455
thanks for all your tips, sources and hints. Sara, what sort of podcasts? When I load the itunes shop, I don't know where to start!
__________________
'Life begins at the end of your comfort zone'-
http://fernsforays.com/ UK to Asia on a DRZ400 2012-2013
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11 Nov 2011
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 22
Question

hi
I'm curious.. Is there not a program that can be used on a netbook that will translate without wifi? I know this doesn't teach you a new language but it would help me out..
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11 Nov 2011
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: RTW, From Vancouver BC 2012
Posts: 640
i Fern

go to itunes store...hit podcast button on top search bar....far right is podcast quick links....hit language learning....choose a language


also try hit apps button... then in search bar top right enter language the hit return ... there are lots of free apps.

Mega cool iphone app.....word lens. translates written language for you just point phone at it.

Also cool is free Translate app Google translate you speak to it in a language and it types out the translation!

Cheers
sara
__________________
Sara

Those who say something is impossible should not hinder those who are achieving it!






www.worldwideride.ca

HU RR Finding Freedom...World Wide Ride
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11 Nov 2011
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Germany
Posts: 52
Busuu!

I am so lazy that I hardly ever use it, but when I do I love it! Free except for the podcasts and set up like Rosetta Stone, it hits all the vitals, and you can set up online tandem for language exchange!

Learn languages for free online | Learn English, Spanish, French, German, Italian, Portuguese | busuu.com
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12 Nov 2011
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 22
Isn't a network needed for google translate and the iPhone app?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 16 Nov 2011
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: RTW, From Vancouver BC 2012
Posts: 640
Smile

Fern check out apps

Google translate
word lens

Sara
__________________
Sara

Those who say something is impossible should not hinder those who are achieving it!






www.worldwideride.ca

HU RR Finding Freedom...World Wide Ride
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 16 Nov 2011
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: on the road...
Posts: 455
thankyou!
__________________
'Life begins at the end of your comfort zone'-
http://fernsforays.com/ UK to Asia on a DRZ400 2012-2013
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


 
 
 

NEW! HU 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar is now available! Get your copy now for some terrific travel inspiration!

HUGE, 11.5 x 16.5 inches, beautifully printed in Germany on top quality stock! Photos are the winning images from over 600 entries in the 9th Annual HU Photo Contest!

Horizons Unlimited 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar.

"The calendar is magnificent!"

"I just wanted to say how much I'm loving the new, larger calendar!"

We share the profit with the winning photographers. YOU could be in the HU Calendar too - enter here!

Next HU Eventscalendar

See all events

 

HU DVD Autumn Special!

Take 40% off Road Heroes Part 1 until October 31 only!

Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries two-up on a Harley); Dr. Greg Frazier (5 times RTW); Tiffany Coates (RTW solo female); and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).

The first in an exciting new series, Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers."Inspiring and hilarious!"

"I loved watching this DVD!"

"Lots of amazing stories and even more amazing photographs, it's great fun and very inspirational."

"Wonderful entertainment!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'HEROES' on your order when you checkout.



Scottoiler automatic chain oilers. The most important accessory for your next motorcycle adventure!


Renedian Adventures


Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:50.