Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > All Miscellaneous questions > Travellers' questions that don't fit anywhere else

Travellers' questions that don't fit anywhere else This is an opportunity to ask any question, and post any notice you wish that doesn't fit into one of the other sections.
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Calendar Contest Voting is now CLOSED. Results to be posted shortly.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: No Fixed Address (formerly Toronto)
Posts: 192
But if you're looking for portable USB power, I just picked up a Zagg Sparq, slightly larger than the palm of your hand. Here's a picture of the two devices for a size comparison:



http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq-c.php

It'll hold enough charge to fully top up an iPhone battery from empty 4 times.
__________________
Gene - http://www.RideDOT.com

Last edited by lightcycle; 1 Mar 2012 at 06:57.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 1,038
Do you know what the charge time on the zagg is - one problem with charging from USB is that they take bloody ages (at least my contour HD does, haven't bought a stills camera yet)
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: No Fixed Address (formerly Toronto)
Posts: 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by henryuk View Post
Do you know what the charge time on the zagg is - one problem with charging from USB is that they take bloody ages (at least my contour HD does, haven't bought a stills camera yet)
The Zagg *is* a USB charger, so it won't be any faster than how you're charging via USB right now. Just that it's portable (won't need an electrical outlet - at least until the Zagg runs out of juice) and it's smaller than a motorcycle battery (which is I think what you were originally asking for).

The Zagg outputs 2000mA.
__________________
Gene - http://www.RideDOT.com
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 1,038
Sorry, what I meant is what is the charging time for the Zagg, rather than from it!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: No Fixed Address (formerly Toronto)
Posts: 192
Ah, gotcha.

I just got it, so I haven't drained it completely yet, but from what I've read online, they say about 6 hours to charge from empty to full.

And you can charge your USB devices while the Zagg is plugged into the wall recharging as well, so everything is recharging at the same time.
__________________
Gene - http://www.RideDOT.com
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Matt Cartney's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland
Posts: 1,351
Quote:
Originally Posted by henryuk View Post
The weight saving is part of the reason to bin the battery, also it's less to go wrong - a spare capacitor weighs naff all.
Henry,

Firstly, forgive my ignorance! Are you concerned about the battery getting dodgy and this interfering with the running of the bike? I won't pretend to know much about electrics (it's all the devil's business as far as I'm concerned) but my Enfield has been sat in the garage best part of three years and the battery is comletely screwed. At least half of the acid has evaporated and it holds no charge. However, I have a Boyer Bransden Powerbox fitted in place of the standard regulator/rectifier and the bike starts and runs fine.

Matt

PS - Wanna buy an Enfield?
__________________
http://adventure-writing.blogspot.com

http://scotlandnepal.blogspot.com/

*Disclaimer* - I am not saying my bike is better than your bike. I am not saying my way is better than your way. I am not mocking your religion/politics/other belief system. When reading my post imagine me sitting behind a frothing pint of ale, smiling and offering you a bag of peanuts. This is the sentiment in which my post is made. Please accept it as such!
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 1 Mar 2012
mattcbf600's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: London, England
Posts: 706
Hi Henry - consider something from Power Traveller... if all you're doing is charging a camera and phone then something like this will be ideal

https://powertraveller.com/iwantsome...nkey-explorer/

The solar charger it comes with takes 8 hours to charge, but you can just leave it in your tank bag map case during the days riding and take it back up to about 75% from empty over the full day. 50% if it's overcast. But the good thing is it does 4 complete (when full) charges of my iPhone and 8 for my camera battery, 6 for the DSLR.

With just the monkey (not using the 12v socket) I can do 5 days on the road without needing a power socket - at which point I can plug that in and get it back up to 100% in 20 mins - and then I have another few days free of the grid.

If that's not go enough juice consider this one

https://powertraveller.com/iwantsome...r/minigorilla/

It runs up to a full 19v and has a higher output so charges things much much faster - including the monkey several times over. It can run my laptop from empty to 50% and takes 16 hours to charge (to full) with the solar panel sold separately or with the larger gorilla pad in a shorter time.

https://powertraveller.com/iwantsome.../solargorilla/

In practice I find that gorilla solar panel too large on the bike so rely on power points every 5 or so days and the small solar panel. The mini gorilla unit takes 45 mins - 1 hour to fully charge so it's a case of doing it over lunch / dinner rather than over a coffee for the monkey.

The monkey will charge over a 12v socket - the mini gorilla won't.

I run off those two devices (and the small solar unit):

* Android Phone
* Casio compact camera
* VERY old iPod 2nd Gen
* Panasonic G1 DSLR
* Sony eReader
* Canon HD Camcorder
* Apple MacBook (13")

If I run as normal I get 5 days between sockets, if I'm careful I get a week - and as the monkey can charge in an hour off the 12v socket I can keep running permanently if I need to on the smaller stuff. (I know you can't do this). The only thing I require the mini gorilla for is the camcorder and the macbook.

I did a brief write-up of the gear over on the blog here

Powering on | The London Biker

I must do a video of it at some point.
__________________
------------------
http://thelondonbiker.com/blog

Watch some of my camp cooking videos

AIM: mattcashmore
SKYPE: matthewcashmore
MSN: matthew@matthewcashmore.com
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 1,038
Matt (Cartney) - the bike doesn't need a battery but it would have some bonuses - so I'm weighing up the pros and cons....

Pros of no battery:
Simpler to build
Lighter bike
No battery to leak/dry up/die
Less tempted to take non-essential gadgets
Putting a high-tech Li battery on an essentially classic bike might be sacriligous?

Pros of battery:
Very easy to add 12v charging socket
Can run LED lights and decent HID Headlights
Could even splash out on a GPS and have it running all the time!

Matt (Cashmore)
Thanks for all the pointers, I'll check the links out - see my final choice at Ripley
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Matt Cartney's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland
Posts: 1,351
Hi Henry,

Yes, makes sense. I did consider removing the battery from the Enfield for lightness (it needs all the help it can get!) but decided to keep it (or never got round to it really).

A lot of electronic gadgets you can do without or run on AAs. I'm sure there are one or two Digital cameras that run on AAs or AAAs, but it will limit your choices.

I see you considered a netbook - and they are fantastic - absolutely ideal for motorbike travel IMHO. Even a cheap one will do all you need in terms of writing a blog and editing pics. I use one, but I need it for writing when researching books. It would be tempting not to bother if I was travelling light and not writing. You could just take multiple SD cards and download your pix to Flickr or similar every time you come across an internet cafe.

What else do you need? A phone? Easily topped up with a USB charger at internet cafes or using a solar charger. I would imagine you can also use the SD card in a phone to store extra copies of your photos, although I haven't looked into this.

Just out of interest, why is it you can't charge devices off a 12v system running off an alternator with no battery?

Matt
__________________
http://adventure-writing.blogspot.com

http://scotlandnepal.blogspot.com/

*Disclaimer* - I am not saying my bike is better than your bike. I am not saying my way is better than your way. I am not mocking your religion/politics/other belief system. When reading my post imagine me sitting behind a frothing pint of ale, smiling and offering you a bag of peanuts. This is the sentiment in which my post is made. Please accept it as such!
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 1,038
To be honest Matt it's because I know naff all about electronics (as opposed to electrics, which I have just about got my head around). I have no idea whether or not the erratic voltage coming off a magneto would fry the battery in a netbook or overcook a modern camera battery. If just wiring into the main loom would be an option that would be great!
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Matt Cartney's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Edinburgh, Lothian, Scotland
Posts: 1,351
Like I said, I'm no expert, and I may be putting my electronics at risk! But, I have a cigarette lighter adapter which I wired directly to the positive and negative terminals of my XT. I know the voltage across the battery terminals depends on whether the engine is running and driving the alternator. I can't remember what the difference is, but it's a couple of volts perhaps between the engine on and the engine off. So that would suggest that the voltage is mainly dictated by the alternator, not the battery and also means I am getting a variable voltage at my cigarette lighter adapter. If I remember correctly this was the way the adapter was meant to be wired up and I didn't just assume (I do have a reasonably well developed assumption instinct) that it was to be wired up this way. This might suggest that you can charge off a battery-less system? I note that you are using a magneto of course, so I don't know what difference this would make. This is DC right? I'm guessing charging devices are set to run off AC and this might cause issues.

I'm just thinking aloud really. Like I said, its all the devils works to me.

Matt

PS - If anyone knows a good reason not to wire up a cigarette lighter adapter direct to the terminals of a battery, please let me know before I fry my netbook!
__________________
http://adventure-writing.blogspot.com

http://scotlandnepal.blogspot.com/

*Disclaimer* - I am not saying my bike is better than your bike. I am not saying my way is better than your way. I am not mocking your religion/politics/other belief system. When reading my post imagine me sitting behind a frothing pint of ale, smiling and offering you a bag of peanuts. This is the sentiment in which my post is made. Please accept it as such!
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 1 Mar 2012
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sheffield
Posts: 1,038
I think the problem could be caused by the voltage constantly going below 8 volts whenever you go to idle, which is the minimum operating voltage of some gadgetry. The magneto works just like an old fashioned bicycle dynamo, so when the engine's not running there is 0 volts, and it increases linearly with revs.

It might be that some or all chargers can handle it but I've been unsucessful in finding a definitive answer on the internet so far
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Slightly dull question about charging a battery / a battery charger.. Lagan Tech 6 4 Feb 2012 08:51
Battery trickle charger.. bacardi23 Yamaha Tech 7 24 Dec 2011 22:37
Battery; decisions, decisions and even more questions Socks Yamaha Tech 4 22 Dec 2011 14:19
Motobatt Battery - Any good? kentfallen Yamaha Tech 9 21 Dec 2011 20:38
Underpowered battery bungle Land Rover Overland Tech 4 28 Nov 2011 19:28

 
 



HU DVD Spring Special!

Buy the Achievable Dream Collectors Set and get Road Heroes Part 1 FREE!

Achievable Dream - The Whole Enchilada!

Cooped up indoors in crap weather? Binge watch over 20 hours of inspiring, informative and entertaining stories and tips from 150 travellers! Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to order them both and use Coupon Code 'BoxSet+' on your order when you checkout.


What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders


contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!




New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.



Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!






All times are GMT +1. The time now is 14:23.