Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Planning, Trip > Travellers' Advisories, Safety and Security on the Road
Travellers' Advisories, Safety and Security on the Road Recent News, political or military events, which may affect trip plans or routes. Personal and vehicle security, tips and questions.
Photo by George Guille, It's going to be a long 300km... Bolivian Amazon

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by George Guille
It's going to be a long 300km...
Bolivian Amazon



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 6 Sep 2010
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: On the Road
Posts: 59
Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlasRider View Post
Hi everyone,

I need help trying to keep my parents from worrying about me while I am traveling alone from Chicago to TDF. My parents are really worried about me going through Mexico. My Mom is in tears. I always assume the reports are exaggerated on the news. I don't watch the news so I don't really know what they are seeing. My Dad mentioned how a grave site with 72 people were found.

Is there any advice someone can give me to try and make my parents not go insane while I am away for 8 months?

I have already gotten a SPOT tracker with 10 minute updates so they know where I am.

Is there anything I can mention to them that will neutralize the paranoia?

Also, is it really getting out of hand in Mexico?

Thanks
I am leaving from San Diego in Late November to ride down the Baja to Cabo. There is always more safety with several riders... tsnrefc@yahoo.com
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12 Oct 2010
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: New Westminster, BC, Canada
Posts: 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrabblebiker View Post
If we made our travel decisions based on news reports pretty much EVERY area of the world would be off limits, including our own home towns.

So let's put it all in perspective. The overwhelming majority of murders in Mexico have to do with the drug trade and tourists are generally not involved. Yes, the fact that migrants, rival drug families, law enforcement officials, mayors and their families are being massacred is atrocious, to say the least. But what you need to look at and explain to your parents is that it does not affect your own safety to any large degree.

If the logic behind avoiding Mexico is to not be caught in the crossfire then we must also apply that same logic to other places.

British Columbia, Canada:

Vancouver: 28 drug shoutouts (give or take) in a 6 month span

Vancouver: My next door neighbour disappeared. It turns out her new husband killed her and her daughter, along with a business partner of his.

Vancouver: Innocent individual is visiting in an apartment. It turns out the renters were involved in the drug trade. Rival gang members burst in and start shooting and killing people, including the innocent visitor.

Vancouver: Over 50 women disappeared from the downtown eastide streets over several years. A serial killing pig farmer is arrested and convicted.

Victoria: 2 incidents of young women being sexually assaulted in the span of 1 week.

Victoria: Charred remains of young girl found within 2km's of my home. Two youths arrested and charged.

Interior of BC: Family of 6 kidnapped and murdered while vacationing in BC

Interior of BC: Elderly couple goes missing and their RV is ablaze. Presumed abducted and/or killed.

The list goes on and on. The point is that there is crime everywhere. Ask your parents to tell you about specific crimes committed against tourists. Then have them put those in perspective. Have them compare it to peaceful beautiful British Columbia above. It may also help to have them keep it in perspective with the crimes happening in good old Phoenix as well.

Can there be a guarantee that nothing will happen to you? of course not. But I can guarantee you that you will be putting yourself in danger by letting fear getting the best of you. It's a slow death on the inside ...I do realize that it's your parents that need convincing, not you.

In the end, it's not really any more dangerous than large US cities IMHO, as long as you use some common sense and don't become involved with drugs (they're just as illegal down there than anywhere else), idiotic foreigners who think it's OK to break the law in another country, and stay away from places and areas that give off bad vibes you'll be OK.

Tell them that this is coming from a single female who rode her bike from Victoria, BC to Yaviza Panama and back in early 2010. I experienced exactly zero dangers with people and I visited every single country down there.


...Michelle
www.scrabblebiker.com
Amen!!!!!!! This post is bang on!!
__________________
One Lucky Dude..


[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]


www.worldwideride.ca
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 13 Oct 2010
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Moosejaw Canada
Posts: 89
I came down the west coast of mexico last month . No problems
Bill
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 17 Oct 2010
ajaxer's Avatar
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 33
I've been travelling in Mexico for the past two weeks with no sign of trouble where I was. Crossed at Laredo and came down the middle to Mexico city, then across to the west coast and now travelling northward.

Everyone is very very friendly, the cops haven't stopped me, the biggest guns are carried by the military police. It is still low tourist season so the locals are eager to please anyone who comes by.
__________________
Ajaxer(Back in the fold)
BMW R1200RT
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 18 Oct 2010
Gold Member
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: BC, Canada
Posts: 93
So far so good. We entered Mexico on Oct. 2 through Nogales, each riding a BMW F800GS. Everyone we've met so far has been really nice... well except one annoying cop who gave us tickets. he wasn't corrupt or anything, just annoying and on a power trip.

We only stayed in one sketchy place (Altar, Sonora) which thankfully we only found out afterwards was sketchy by some friends we made further along. We didn't have any issues the night we stayed there.

Also I should mention that I'm born and raised in Canada, in a small town so I wouldn't say that I'm very conditioned to more dangerous places: i leave my key in my bike when i park it and walk off etc... a habit i really need to break for the rest of this trip.

Just like in Canada and the US if you stay out of large cities and use your best judgment you should be fine.

Hopefully I haven't just jinxed myself since I'm not out of Mexico yet
__________________
Canada to Argentina 2010:http://nomi-beto-adventures.blogspot.com/

Website:www.MotoLara.com
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 19 Oct 2010
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Tyler, TX
Posts: 7
My wife and I spent almost a month in Mexico this summer. Two weeks on bikes in Copper Canyon and then down in Yucatan on a guided trip.

All were friendly and we had a great time.

Of course, we had people lined up to tell us how, as Arlo Guthrie says, we would meet "mother stabbing, father rapers" along the way.

We also found it helpful to keep a webpage and SPOT track. As long as people could talk to us regularly, then it seemed to calm their fears quite a bit.

Copper Canyon and Baja
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 12 Dec 2010
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Page, Arizona
Posts: 1
SEcond hand

I live in Arizona and plan to travel to Mexico a few times a year. I was concerned too. So I asked some of my friends who go o Mexico a lot. Basically most areas are reasonalbly safe. Of course you are a tourist and a target for criminals no matter where you go. Some border towns, mainly where the drug cartels are battleing it out should be avoided. Several of my friends go to Baja and some of the towns on the east side of Baja Bay. They tell me there they don't worry about kiddnapping and the people are great! In fact the bad news coming out of places like Juarez and Nogales are hurting some really nice people and towns that depend on tourist. I allowed my high school age daughter to go and there group had no problems.

All that being said there are places to stay away from.

Chuck
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 26 Feb 2011
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Benton Harbor, MI
Posts: 6
Road Hog,
You might find this really funny, I am a 48 year old Female who is planning a trip to Mexico. I too am getting lots of flack from my mother and family concerned about my safety. I am a mother and I am sure that I would be concerned for your safety as well, but know as a mother, our worries do not stop just because you are out of our sight. I have provided several answers and that has not stopped the badgering. I will continue to plan the trip and report it here on the hubb. Good luck in your travels. Suzanne
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 6 Mar 2011
Gold Member
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Toronto
Posts: 17
Thanks everyone. I am also planning a trip down the Pan American Highway and the information provided here was helpful.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 11 Mar 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: New Hampshire, USA
Posts: 107
Mexico is wonderful. I've been several times and the people are always genuinely friendly. Sure, you find some bad apples, but you'll find them in any city around the world.

Be confident and friendly. If something just doesn't feel right, then move on. Trust your gut. On my first trip, I initially thought everyone was out to get me. Ya, too much bad press printed in the USA. I settled down after a few days on the road, realized that not evert old lady was looking to rob me, and I had a great ride after that.

You'll meet some amazing people and see beautiful landscapes. One thing you won't do on a trip through Mexico though is lose weight. Man, those street tacos/gorditas/moletes/elotes sure taste good!



Here's a recent write-up from a fellow travelers who's been in Mexico for the past 5 months. 5 Months of Motorcycling in Mexico with Stephen Sper | Motorcycle Mexico
__________________
Motorcycle Mexico - The easiest way to prepare for your first ride south of the border.
USA to TDF Blog
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 11 Mar 2011
BlackBeast's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ontario, CANADA
Posts: 313
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Benny View Post
Ya, too much bad press printed in the USA.
I wish more people will travel thru' Mexico as some parts really need more tourism $. Mexico is as safe as any other big city and is a wonderful country to travel thru'.
Daryll
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 11 Mar 2011
Mollygrubber's Avatar
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Vancouver BC Canada
Posts: 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackBeast View Post
I wish more people will travel thru' Mexico as some parts really need more tourism $. Mexico is as safe as any other big city and is a wonderful country to travel thru'.
Daryll
+1 Daryll, we're already planning a future trip there. I'd feel safer there than most big North American cities I think.

Peter
__________________
Wherever you go, there you are.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 11 Mar 2011
BlackBeast's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ontario, CANADA
Posts: 313
Peter,
Remember half the fun is in the planning of the trip as well. We have to get together when we get back.
Daryll
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 12 Mar 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ireland
Posts: 167
I spent a month and a half in Mexico myself last Sep/Oct, including a week in Ensenada which is pretty much on the border, without any bother, troubles, complications, etc... It's never as bad as you hear...
__________________
We're here for a good time, not a long time...
Mini-on-Tour
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 12 Mar 2011
BlackBeast's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Ontario, CANADA
Posts: 313
Quote:
Originally Posted by IronArse View Post
It's never as bad as you hear...
Those that you do hear from are the ones that have never left the comfort of their homes.
Daryll
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Gold Wing buy in Vancouver ship from Mexico Mexico Rowley Trip Paperwork 7 16 Jun 2009 04:21
Mexico, Mexico City I need insurance: wyomex Sleep and Eat, Central America - Mexico 0 11 Jul 2008 23:29
Buying 2nd hand bikes Mexico city / mexico joshsnave Central America and Mexico 1 12 Jun 2008 03:08
Chihuahua Mexico to Mexico City - Spring Break Priss Route Planning 2 14 Mar 2008 16:20
Mexico GPS Atlas from Mexico Maps.com BackroadExplorer Navigation - Maps, Compass, GPS 0 16 Oct 2007 16:14

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:48.