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It's all a bit snobbish and condesending....
Quite. Some of you lot should listen to yourselves sometimes 'cos you sound like right wankers from where I'm sitting.
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It's all tongue in cheek ! Hence why it's in the HU Bar !!
Take a chillaxative !! 
I'm sure there are some who get very elitist over the subject but they just look like over extremist "image" riders in themselves !
It does a full circle !
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It's all a bit snobbish and condesending....
Quite. Some of you lot should listen to yourselves sometimes 'cos you sound like right wankers from where I'm sitting.
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Ah, Ah, this must be the best reply on here 
Hardcore and Wannabe are too often bandied about, unpaved and uneven roads in Romania,camping in a storm and people think they are 'hardcore'
For Hardcore travel try Lois Pryce's trip to South Africa solo, perhaps even the Mondo Enduro/Terra Circa trips(although 'team handed'), how about Rosie Swale Pope....running around the world?.
Wannabes, well, I wannabe a multi millionaire and I wannabe the owner of Crystal Palace football club.
When you have done something that you think is 'Hardcore' and want to tell people, try telling it to members of the armed forces in Iraq or Afghanistan that don't know if the next day will be their last.
people that go on waffling about Wannabes are often people that have already done a trip which they then think as elevated them to the status of 'Hardcore'.
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I remember the first time I went to Norway, riding my TDM on gravel. It felt pretty hardcore to me at the time. The feeling didn't last very long though as 2 guys on Buells came past me going the other way!
It's all relative to what you've known before. Africa would seem very hardcore for me right now, far outside my comfort zone but for a lot on here it's a walk in the park.
As for a wannabe, I just wannabe loved!! Ha ha.
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Some of you lot should listen to yourselves sometimes 'cos you sound like right wankers from where I'm sitting.
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Go easy there, Doc. Just a bunch of UKers itching for some good riding weather. The Ripley meet-up is coming in June; the wannabies are dragging their 1200GS's out and gearing up. but since the weather still sucks, all they do is talk about doing it.
Blah, blah, blah.
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Bikes in Norway is twice the price for a bike in Germany.
So if I go on a trip with a two Germans, Hans with the same bike as me, Fritz with a cheaper bike then I'm double so much wannabe as Hans and four times as much wannabe as Fritz.....
When I tour in Europe I can easily use 4 times the daily budget as I do in Africa, so if I spend a month in Europe I'm less wannabe then if I spend a month in Africa. |
Sounds about right. Not? The metric is not trying to compare regional bike prices, but it's quantifying priorities. Do I spend money on the bike? or the trip?
The daily budget factor should deal with the europe versus africa thing. Other variables I can think of:
- Average number of days between showers
- Average number of days between proper toilets
- number of times you had to do with the hose/can provided in the smallest room
- Succesive days being stuck at/between borders
- number of languages where you can use ask the road in and order food
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How do we quantify the daily expenditure?
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It's all a bit snobbish and condesending....
Quite. Some of you lot should listen to yourselves sometimes 'cos you sound like right wankers from where I'm sitting.
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Finally someone worth meeting! An exellent,exellent summation! 
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For me a wanabee is someone who would like to do something but his current situation makes him or her scared to take the plunge. For most enterprises, the most difficult part is getting out off your armchair. If asked I would describe myself as a motorcyclist. Sometimes I take a ten mile ride and enjoy it, sometimes a lot farther. I just want to ride and enjoy my ride, so in mid winter when it is chucking it down I'd rather be beside my wood burning stove sipping a glass of Bowmores. Life is for enjoying, whatever way you do that is the right way.
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Please dont get too serious the whole thread was aimed at having (in parts at ones self) a laugh about opinions of others and how we see the world we live in.
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Wannabee or hardcore?
In 2007 I spent 3 months travelling round Europe,just me & my tent & my bike (ok,a mate was with me for first 6 weeks) upshot is I loved it,since then have been planning my next BIG trip,hopefully to Mongolia via Scandinavia,Russia etc,does this make me a wannabee? Frankly I dont care,it is MY little dream,one that I am determined to make reality. RTW next? Who knows? I refuse to be pigeon holed.
Dream the big one,all the best;
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Most of the guys I know in the local club here aren't wannabe's. True, they might buy the big 1200 GS and hardly ever get it off the pavement, but they're great people doing exactly what they want to do, not wishing they were someone/thing else. I'm totally in favor of that. If you want to haul a trailer with your bike, go for it. If you only want to stay in motels, fine. If you love to sleep out in the rain with no shelter, who cares?
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Other variables I can think of:
- Average number of days between showers
- Average number of days between proper toilets
- number of times you had to do with the hose/can provided in the smallest room
- Succesive days being stuck at/between borders
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How about : number of bones broken, or number of weeks spent in a 3rd world hospital?
Ride your own ride.............shu
(I just re read this. I think I'm guilty of getting too serious, Trix.  )
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It's all tongue in cheek ! Hence why it's in the HU Bar !!
Take a chillaxative !!
I'm sure there are some who get very elitist over the subject but they just look like over extremist "image" riders in themselves !
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Hey Ted - if you hear a guy in the bar say the same thing over and over and over again people do draw conclusions though. Might be worth thinking about ....
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Please dont get too serious the whole thread was aimed at having (in parts at ones self) a laugh about opinions of others and how we see the world we live in.
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Well the originators of the 'wannabe genre' took my comment a bit seriously, don't you think?
The pseudo-elitism and inverted snobbery that surface in these forums from time to time really doesn't reflect well on some of you guys. Trying to pass it off as light-hearted banter is a bit limp, IMHO - at least have the bollocks to admit you're a knob or have said something knob-ish.
And in case anyone is wondering, I don't ride a 1200GSA; in fact, I don't even have a bike at the moment....(but it will be a Tenere when it comes - the 660).
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A very exclusive club this seams to be getting, I preffer to be a free thinking independant guy on a motorbike.
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I'm sure Trix didn't mean for people to get worked up about this but GasUp & Docsherlock have fair points. As I have tried to say before the more people getting out there and travelling on motorcycles the better. Better for them as individuals and better for the motorcycle community. There will always be different approaches to the same idea, that's why we travel.
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Hey Ted - if you hear a guy in the bar say the same thing over and over and over again people do draw conclusions though. Might be worth thinking about ....
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I don't think anyone takes anything said on an internet forum seriously or literally. Especially threads like this in the HU Bar.
You can never draw judgements and opinions from idle type and it would be very poor judgement to do so..
I remember sitting around a table, drinking  s and having a fantatastic time with some peopple who had met up and spent a few days riding together. (off another forum). Really great guys. The subject changed to our forum names and people were shocked at the opinions we had drawn of each other before meeting and they were TOTALLY inaccurate ! 2 of the guys were always at each each others throats on the forum turned out to get on great and are now regular riding partners.
If you'd ever met me, you'd know I am far from elistist or judgemental... I'm just a bit of a dreamer and a plonker and really couldn't care less about many futile things..
I'm only on here so much as i've dislocated my knee, can't play out and I'm saving all my pennies for the next trip..
As you say, it might be worth thinking about !!!  
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I AM A WANNABE
I wannabe traveling around the would.
I wannabe with my wife (who isn't a wannabe)
I wannabe outta negative equity on my property
I wannabe not working for a big corporation
I wannabe not having too support my kids
I wannabe dreaming of maybe not being a wannabe
And one fine day I will no longer be a wannabe, but doing
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