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Old 27 Mar 2009
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Originally Posted by farqhuar View Post
Gents, lets get this straight. There is no such thing as running-in oil.

Manufacturers just use regular oil - I know, I spent a lot of time around the assembly plant of Japan's largest auto company and have asked the question of the head engineer.
Garry from Oz.
I accept you cant buy a can of running in oil. BUT many manufacturers use a different oil for running in to normal service oils. BMW for instance used to use dino oils for the initial 500 miles. Before switching to synth.
So when I say running in oil, I mean the type of oil recommended for this process. If it happens to be normal service oil, then so be it. BUT it might not be the same.
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Originally Posted by oldbmw View Post
I accept you cant buy a can of running in oil.
You can, a lot of companies sell them: CASTROL RUNNING IN OIL - 5 litre
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Having looked at this, and various other forums, I think I'll just go with the Yahama instructions on this one. There seems to be a consensus that an oil and filter change around 30 - 50 miles is a good idea, plus not riding at a constant speed for too long.

The question is, how many miles would I have to put on the clock before it'd be ok to do a small tour, etc. I was hoping to do a small trip round Wales & southern England next week...

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For my new KTM 690 the manufacturer says not to exceed 6krpm for the first 1000km (first service) and then not to exceed 7.5krpm for the next 1000km - and that is all. I was surprised that it was 6k not 4.5 or 5 but riding the bike it seems right. I'm just riding normally using all the gears, engine braking etc. just not wringing it through the gears. Oil is fine for the first 1000km. Even though the rings are not bedded you get very little petrol contamination in a new engine. Any 'swarf' that may find its way into the oil will be filtered out.

Race engines need much less running in as the 'blueprinting' process ensures that everything is within very tight tolerances from the outset and bores and rings are finished to a much higher spec than a mass produced engine.
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