Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Technical, Bike forums > Suzuki Tech

Suzuki Tech Suzuki Tech Forum - For Questions specific and of interest to Suzuki riders only. Questions comparing which bike is best etc go in the "Which Bike" forum.
Contact Overland Solutions for all your custom modifications and setup for overland travel.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10 Feb 2007
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 381
DRZ E and S models

I know the common differences between the S and the E models, including the rear sub frame issues and the different carbs. I am busy prepping a long range desert tourer and have a couple of questions if anyone can help.

I know the e model puts out more BHP but can anyone give me an indication of the MPG in various conditions? ans also the effects of riding without a cooling fan for extended periods in soft sand, any overheating issues?

Cheers guys and galls,

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11 Feb 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Eureka, CA USA
Posts: 326
The E version doens NOT get as good as gas mileage I understand. Also the other advantage of the S model is the S carb may not produce as much power, it is not as sensitive to elevation changes as the E model carb. I have an S version with aftermarket pipe, 3x3 mod and E cams. It makes plenty of power. The cams made a big diffrance. I'm not sure how that will affect my mileage as yet however.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that some people wire on a computer fan to their DR-Z's. I would peobably consider doing that for a lot of desert racing, although they don't overheat easy.
__________________
John

Last edited by ekaphoto; 11 Feb 2007 at 04:31.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11 Feb 2007
smokinrider's Avatar
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hampshire UK
Posts: 67
i believe there is a kick option. the first e models were available with no e start, why i dont know, the line was dropped due to the e start model being available. all parts though will be available from suzuki and be able to be retro fitted. it may set you back a few 100 squid but its a good back up.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 22 Feb 2007
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 381
Ok, all sounds good. So good in fact that I just bought an 'e' model bike. It looks as if I'm off to Morocco for a test run in a few weeks and althgough there is little sand there unless you go looking I am still a littel concerned about over heating and fuel economy. The bike is stock except for an aftermarket pipe as far as I know. I will be putting on a larger tank and other usual mods but am interested in the idea of fitting a computer fan. Anyone got any info on size, model etc. I'm guessing they dont like water either......so how does that work?!!

Also any advice regarding specific info on adjusting the pumper to reduce fuel economy?

Sadly I wont get the chance to test the bike properly until morocco so any advice regarding stock mpg in various different conditions would also be useful.


Once again,

Cheers Guys!!

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 22 Feb 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Eureka, CA USA
Posts: 326
Best source of info is ThumperTalk . I am not sure what brand of computer fan, but any would probably work. I believe computer fans are 12 v anyway, but not sure. As for wiring it in, I would probably wire it so it turned off when the bike was turned off just so I didn't kill my battrie in the middle of the desert. Also you could probably get an E setup and put on. Doesnt look hard to do after looking at my fan setup once but computer fan is probably alot cheaper.
__________________
John
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 24 Feb 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Eureka, CA USA
Posts: 326
I found this article. It was at another spot on line, but found it again on the following link

4Strokes.com Suzuki Tech: Suzuki DRZ400E Advanced Jetting - By Matt Nelson

And S model info

4Strokes.com Suzuki Tech: Suzuki DRZ400S Upgrades - By Matt Nelson
__________________
John
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 28 Feb 2007
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 381
Thanks again for the help guys, the bike is now in full prep!

http://www.nodge.co.uk/boyd/gallery/...e/DRZ-Boyd.jpg

This image is where I'm aiming but I'm struggling with the high screen at the front. I've spoken to Boyd (the guy in the photo) and he is saying that the screen on the bike came from a scrap yard but he cant remember what it was off originally........ problems is, I've only had the bike for a week and it ships to africa within the next few weeks, so I 'm on a tight schedule.

Any suggestions ????

Ta!!!

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 28 Feb 2007
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Ashford Kent UK
Posts: 141
How about making your own screen from a bit of perspex . I made a screen extention for my gs this way & it worked well Use blades for cutting plastic if using a jigsaw so it dont shatter i heated up the edge over the gas cooker & bent it on the sink to give the curve at the top then driled 2 holes & bolt it to the fairing . What mods have you done ? i also have a DRZ & have been thinking about doing somthing simlar let me know how you get on.
Good Luck
Kev
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 1 Mar 2007
chris's Avatar
Probably out riding
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: God's Own County
Posts: 2,294
Carb breather and deep water

Hi Patrick/mollydog,

Ref your message above: Quote:"Re-routed crankcase breather and carb vent and drain hoses. One of them can suck up water and kill the motor on deep water crossings."

I've got a DRZ-e too (I'm going to Moroc with Dave and the "Boyd" bike in the pic is now mine) and was looking at how to put a T or Y piece in the carb breather and feed an extra tube upwards in order to prevent an engine stop when crossing deep water. There are 6 hoses hanging out of the bottom of the bike. 1 is the crank case breather and the other 5 are clear plastic and come from the carb area. Any suggestion which of the 5 should heve the T/Y piece splitter?

I did this mod on my DRZ-s and klr250 and it was super easy. There was only 1 carb breather! On the klr250 I made it through a ford in a river and the water was over the seat and the bike didn't miss a beat.

Thanks for any help.
Cheers
Chris
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 1 Mar 2007
chris's Avatar
Probably out riding
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: God's Own County
Posts: 2,294
Just searched ThumperTalk and found this:
Stalling in a stream .. - ThumperTalk

I think this is the info I need.

ChrisB
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 16 Apr 2007
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 381
Just a quick message to say thanks for all the support and advice regarding DRZ's over the last few months.

I finally prepped an 'E' model and just took it to Morocco for a couple of weeks for a shakedown. It is by far the best of all the models of bike I've ever 'overlanded', certainly for the more extreme offroad stuff. A really fine piece of engineering.

Cheers Guys!!!!

Dave
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 26 Apr 2007
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Eureka, CA USA
Posts: 326
Glad you liked the DR-Z. Looking forward to hearing all about your trip.
__________________
John
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
transmission models radioactiveangel BMW Tech 5 4 Nov 2010 06:12
TLC 78 <> 105 <> new models Cedric Vandermeulen 4WD Overland Tech 1 29 Dec 2006 20:42
DRz 400 Pre and Post 2003 Models davidlomax Suzuki Tech 2 20 Dec 2006 14:23
Are exhausts interchangeable between models? Stormforce8 Yamaha Tech 0 17 Oct 2006 12:34
Landcruiser 80 Series - Should I Avoid '90-94 Models? Moodoo 4WD Overland Tech 7 6 Jun 2005 05:04

 
 
 

NEW! HU 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar is now available! Get your copy now for some terrific travel inspiration!

HUGE, 11.5 x 16.5 inches, beautifully printed in Germany on top quality stock! Photos are the winning images from over 600 entries in the 9th Annual HU Photo Contest!

Horizons Unlimited 2015 Motorcycle Adventure Travel Calendar.

"The calendar is magnificent!"

"I just wanted to say how much I'm loving the new, larger calendar!"

We share the profit with the winning photographers. YOU could be in the HU Calendar too - enter here!


HU DVD Autumn Special!

Take 40% off Road Heroes Part 1 until October 31 only!

Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries two-up on a Harley); Dr. Greg Frazier (5 times RTW); Tiffany Coates (RTW solo female); and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).

The first in an exciting new series, Road Heroes features tales of adventure, joy and sheer terror by veteran travellers."Inspiring and hilarious!"

"I loved watching this DVD!"

"Lots of amazing stories and even more amazing photographs, it's great fun and very inspirational."

"Wonderful entertainment!"

Check it out at the HU Store! Remember to use Coupon Code 'HEROES' on your order when you checkout.


Renedian Adventures


Renedian Adventures

What others say about HU...

"I just wanted to say thanks for doing this and sharing so much with the rest of us." Dave, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the DVD series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring! The new look of the website is very impressive, updated and catchy. Thank you so very much!" Jennifer, Canada

"...Great site. Keep up the good work." Murray and Carmen, Australia

"We just finished a 7 month 22,000+ mile scouting trip from Alaska to the bottom of Chile and I can't tell you how many times we referred to your site for help. From how to adjust your valves, to where to stay in the back country of Peru. Horizons Unlimited was a key player in our success. Motorcycle enthusiasts from around the world are in debt to your services." Alaska Riders

contest pic

10th Annual HU Travellers Photo Contest is on now! This is an opportunity for YOU to show us your best photos and win prizes!

NEW! HU 2014 Adventure Travel T-shirts! are now available in several colors! Be the first kid on your block to have them! New lower prices on synths!

HU 2014 T-shirts now in!

Check out the new Gildan Performance cotton-feel t-shirt - 100% poly, feels like soft cotton!


What turns you on to motorcycle travel?


Global Rescue, WORLDwide evacuation services for EVERYONE

Global Rescue is the premier provider of medical, security and evacuation services worldwide and is the only company that will come to you, wherever you are, and evacuate you to your home hospital of choice. Additionally, Global Rescue places no restrictions on country of citizenship - all nationalities are eligible to sign-up!


New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80 G/S motorcycle.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events (22 this year!); we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, the HUBB or to receive the e-zine. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.


Books & DVDs

amazon

All the best travel books and videos listed and often reviewed on HU's famous Books page. Check it out and get great travel books from all over the world.


Motorcycle Express for shipping and insurance!

Motorcycle Express

MC Air Shipping, (uncrated) USA / Canada / Europe and other areas. Be sure to say "Horizons Unlimited" to get your $25 discount on Shipping!
Insurance - see: For foreigners traveling in US and Canada and for Americans and Canadians traveling in other countries, then mail it to MC Express and get your HU $15 discount!




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:31.