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Old 21 May 2007
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Entry into Senegal with car older that 5 years

We are planning to take a car into Senegal which is older than 5 years. I know that you are not allowed to import an car into Senegal which is older than 5 years, but does this cause problems when visiting?

Would it be useful to have a Carnet de Passage to reduce the problems at the Border or is it not worth it??

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That's why the Senegalese tourist trade has been hit so hard as even visitors with campervans aren't allowed in.

BUT I know a Spanish guy who has his Unimog (23yrs old) there - managed to get in for a year with a CdeP

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From my experience earlier on this year you will not get into Senegal without a Carnet if your vehicle is over 5 years old.
It does not matter whether you want to stay for 1 day or 1 year.

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I am doing the same and I have a Peugeot car from '93. I am going to travel via Mali and enter Senegal through there. I hear that the convoi and the restriction is only for the mauritania/senegal border.
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No problem entering with a carnet. The Plymouth-Banjul Rally have an arrangement where they are escorted to The Gambia in convoy by a customs official. I doubt this option is available to the average tourist. I have also heard it is easier to enter via Mali, certainly the border guards are more relaxed and less corrupt.
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No problem entering with a carnet. The Plymouth-Banjul Rally have an arrangement where they are escorted to The Gambia in convoy by a customs official. I doubt this option is available to the average tourist. I have also heard it is easier to enter via Mali, certainly the border guards are more relaxed and less corrupt.
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the option of 'customs escort' is available to other tourists also. You just haggle about the price, thats all.
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No problem entering with a carnet. The Plymouth-Banjul Rally have an arrangement where they are escorted to The Gambia in convoy by a customs official. I doubt this option is available to the average tourist. I have also heard it is easier to enter via Mali, certainly the border guards are more relaxed and less corrupt.
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I heard that a convoy is mandatory if u want to go to the Gambia with a car older then 5 years (only at the Rosso bordercrossing though). i hear its "officially" 225 euro for two cars. the convoy means that u need a customs officer on board until u reach the border with Gambia. but many officials don't bother the long/tiring drive anymore and it depends on your bargain skills how much u pay to pass the border (between 50-200 euro it will still cost for the passavant). This is second hand information I got so please correct if I am wrong here.
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Chapati is right :. You can bargain down a passavant for around 50-75-100? Euros for up to 2 weeks (renewable in Dakar) . No need of CDP. everyone does it .

This is better , easily and more ovbiously bargainable in Diama than in Rosso.

any other border (both Gambian's border with Senegal ) they don't give a $hit about the vehicle's age , cpd , etc.

of course , borders with Guinea(s) and Mali do neither .

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You mention the border with Guinea; the border south of Kedougou (Pays Bassari) has a little 'Hitler' on the gate ... I went through hell there whilst as the only 'toubab' passenger (& female). I'm sure the soldiers that were there in january would have a field day with a foreign registered car ... being asked to show my SIDA certificate (having seen my passport, YFever, driving licence - although I wasn't driving) he was determined to get 10,000CFA out of me!

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Thumbs up in to senagal

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if its any use to you , i've been through twice this year(2007) IN jan i went from mali, through to gambia, in a 1986 RHD shogan. no problems. i even reversed in to a lamp post outside the custom post no one bothered!!. and in april i took the wife down to gambia, (atlantic route) in a 1985 merc lhd this time
and crossed in to senegal ,over the barrage. (dieama) luckly the car was an inport in to uk, so the reg paper(v5) had two dates on ,manfacture and first reg in uk. just put my finger over first date and he read later date(2004) and of we went. just avoid rosso,i cross at rosso in 2003 with a carnet, and i still got shafted. ask me why was it not stamped in mauri ? that cost me. you pays your money and takes your chance.
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In Feb 2007 we go to Senegal from Mauritania. We have 6 cars and we pay 50 € per car on the border.
But if you want go to Senegal by oldtimer car (5 and more years), you can't go to Senegal by Rosso.
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...and in april i took the wife down to gambia, (atlantic route) in a 1985 merc lhd this times...
Hi.
Was it you I met on my way to Senegal on my Triumph Bonneville this april?

I had to use my Carnet to enter Senegal because the motorcycle was older than 5 years.

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Thumbs up terje l. r.

hi
yes thats was me, morroc- mauri boarder,we was wondering what happened to you, did you go to rosso!!!. see you around
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Do we need it??

Hi everybody!
I'm planning to go to Senegal this October with a friend of mine.
Our bikes are 2004 KTM 950 ADV and 2003 BMW 1150 GS.
Is it safe not to take at all with as CarneDp
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passavants = laissez-passer?

Anybody: by 'passavants' do you mean laissez-passer - the local 'carnet' which is valid across Francophone West Africa )or was in my day) - or is passavants just a Senegal-only temp-import transit pass?

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