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Old 20 May 2005
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Carnet for Thailand

Hello there,
i will fly from Delhi to Bankok with my Africa Twin next week (end of May), my Carnet will expire the first week of June, to get a new one i have been told by the ACI (Italian) that i have to send the old Carnet (closed) and that they will make me a NEW carnet ..of course to do this i will have to leave the Bike at Bankok Airport for the 15 - 20 days the time they need (this is the time frame they gave me)to prepare the new carnet ... i was wondering if the carnet in THAILAND is a must or if they can just writing on the passport or similar then i can send the carnet back to Italy but still have the bike, otherwise i will be stuck for 15-20 day ... if anyone has any idea please ....
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Strange, my understanding of the "normal" procedure is that they send you the new carnet, you use the old one to leave India, use the new one to enter Thailand, then send the old one back.

But, is a carnet actually required for Thailand?

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Yes, that would be also more logical, but this is what i have been told ....
I dont know if a Carnet is required for Thailand, i am trying to find out as well ....
If anyone knows please post few lines ..
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hi there,
a carnet is actually NOT required for Thailand.
they will not accept it at BKK airport anyway.
you will get a paper from them (for 30 days
I think). but a carnet could be useful at borders to laos, cambodia, malaysia.
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TO, this is the best news u could give me, FANTASTIC.
I will get my carnet renewed/New One in the 15-20 days that i am in Thailand, my worries was that i would have to leave the bike in the customs at the Airport for the time till i would get my carnet .. but like this is simply perfect, i will travel around in the mean time i get the new carnet, then move on to Loas, Cambodia and so on with the new carnet ...
Thanks for the info ... u made my day .
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Eh voilĂ ! Another traveller sorted out through the HUBB!

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Well lets see once i am in Bankok, but yes the Hub is really a fantastic tool for the ones on the road ....
cheers and will keep posted ...
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Hi TO, well i got this email from a friend whom is also traveling ....

concerning your bike. i didnt use a carnet because i bought the bike in thailand, but you are going to need one. for sure. importtax is high and its not possible without one.

something you really should know is about the system of the clearingdays. by ship you have 20 clearingdays, with plain only five. meaning that you have to clear your cargo before that time (paperwork and stuff), if you dont do it within these periods it will cost you A LOT OF MONEY. meaning 100 dollars or more per day. for exemple: the 6th day you start paying , but also for the 5 days before, meaning 600 dollars. alot if you ask me. discussed it yesterday with my danisch collegea (cagiva elephant 900) and he told me a same experience. so watch out. this info they most of the time dont give you.

so make sure your paperwork is okay when you go... keep me in touch with the progress..

As u see is much different from what u said .. is your information releiable ?? And how old is the info ... please let me know since i am a bit confused ...
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Thailand doesn't used carnets. They will issue you with a permitthat will allow your vehicle to stay for 30 days and if you haven't remeoved your vehicle by then, I believe you can be fined something like US$20,000. Laos doesn't use carnets either but they may stamp it if they are presented with one.

Basically, if you fly you bike into BKK airport you should be able to get it out within a day or at least by the following day. Take your shippping forms to the cargo authorities when you get there. There will be plenty of people willing to get your paperwork done for you for a price but, you can do it yourself no worries.

Cambodia I beleive DO use carnets and so does Malaysia. Malaysia may not ask to see the carnet when entering so present it when you get there and ask for them to stamp it. Singapore don't use carnets. You will need to speak to the Singapore AA guys to obtain insurance to ride in there.
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..one more thing.. when you ride your bike out of the airport.. DON'T ride on the raised tollway OR the road directly below this road.. bikes are not allowed no matter what the engine size. You will cause quite a stir if you try....will produce a nice entourage of police bikes and cars!
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Malaysia may not ask to see the carnet when entering so present it when you get there and ask for them to stamp it.
Why present it when it's not required?

If I understand your post correctly you can enter any of these countries without a carnet, right? Its use is optional.

Did you actually experience this yourself?

If my understanding of all this is correct, and if Indonesia doesn't require a carnet, either, then I could send my carnet home once I leave the Indian subcontinent, as none of the SE Asian countries seems to require a carnet.

It is possible to enter Oz without one and it's not needed for NZ. Would save a lot of hassle for renewing, etc.

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Hi Mauro,
You do not need a Carnet for thailand. We flew our bike into BKK in 2002.
However your almost expired Carnet will help with the paperwork required.
Go to the customs office at the freight terminal which is a short walk south of the main terminal.
Walk right in.
Do not deal with the guys outside of the office, even if they have ID tags. Yes they are very friendly and will help for a "price"...
Go inside and the nice English speaking secretaries will get you an official customs guy to do your paperwork.
Make it clear you want a "white paper" which is a temporary 30 day visa for the bike, and tell them you need to renew your carnet and do not want to use it for the temporary import to thailand.
You can renew the "white paper" at any internatinal border crossing for a small fee, which will give you another wonderful 30 days...
Enjoy the land of smiles...

P.S. Go to Chiang Mai in the north, and look up David Unkovitch. www.gt-rider.com
He is has the best info on riding in Northern Thailand and Laos.Great maps too

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Thankks, OT and Cameron,
the bike is in the crate and will be in Bankok by sunday, by monday i will know how it went and let u know ...
Thank you very much.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><HR><font face="" size="2">Originally posted by Spud:
Malaysia may not ask to see the carnet when entering so present it when you get there and ask for them to stamp it.


Why present it when it's not required?

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>>It is required for Malaysia and the reason you present it, is to get an entry stamp for the day you will leave Malaysia.

if you don't when they want to stamp the exit stamp you won't have an entry stamp and questions could be asked. This is exactly what happened to me. If you leave via Singapore you will probably be ok. If you leave via Port Klang then they will probably ask to see your carnet.

This was certainly my experience anyway. I went to Singapore and left Singapore back to ship my bike from port Klang.

The guys in the port sorted my entry stamp for me though at Port Klang.
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If I understand your post correctly you can enter any of these countries without a carnet, right? Its use is optional.

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>> Nope.. Malaysia requires carnets as I understand it

Did you actually experience this yourself?
>>Yes - If I hadn't I wouldn't have posted this
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If my understanding of all this is correct, and if Indonesia doesn't require a carnet, either, then I could send my carnet home once I leave the Indian subcontinent, as none of the SE Asian countries seems to require a carnet.

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>> Not sure about Indonesia as not been there
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