Ushuaia in the winter

**StrollSouth** · #1 10 Jun 2006

I am thinking of making a trip down to Ushuaia in July, their winter, and am looking for advice on what to expect. Rain, snow and icy roads? I plan on staying on paved roads to make better time and also to make finding hot showers easier.

**Grant Johnson** · #2 10 Jun 2006

See Weather.com

for some numbers.

But don't get fooled - you have to go through the mountains to get there.

And one of the popular camping sites in summer is the ski hill. And the snow line isn't very high up.

Reports from travellers in March are not good for bikes...

Let us know how you go!

**StrollSouth** · #3 11 Jun 2006

Hi Grant!
Thanks for the weather site and concern. The mountain pass between Los Andes (Santiago) and Mendoza, AG, was closed for a day this week due to snow. We are still determined to hit TDF so will try passing further south, near Osorno on the advice of some locals. If the mountains won´t let us into Argentina then we will probably catch a ferry from Puerto Montt.

If anybody reading this has passed recently over the Andes now would be a good time to speak up.

Thanks!

**hook** · #4 12 Jun 2006

Hi Lynne and Tom, I took the ferry from Puerto Montt to Chaiten last month. There was plenty of rain and wind, but no snow. The good thing about going further south is that crossing into Argentina doesn't require crossing a high mountain pass (like the Eisenhower!). I spent several days in Chaiten waiting for a break in the rain. The wind along the oceanfront sometimes made simply walking a difficult undertaking. Once you're in the mountains though, there is some shelter. In short, I would think your "chances" are good east of Chaiten, towards Esquel, then south. Snow won't be an issue there- but there will be issues...

**StrollSouth** · #5 12 Jun 2006

Hook,
Your route may be our plan "B" and I am interested in what the cost was for the ferry and what the road was like on route 7...still gravel?

Are you still in the area or are you back in Colorado? It is good to hear from someone from the Centenial state.

**hook** · #6 12 Jun 2006

Hi, I'm in Buenos Aires now having some work done on my bike. I forget what the ferry cost, somewhere around $85 with the bike I think. Make sure you secure the bike well, we had a rough ride going to Chaiten. The ferry departed Puerto Montt 3 hours late due to rough seas. The waters are protected however-it's not like being aboard the Andrea Gail in her final hours or anything, just choppy. The road was well maintained gravel, more smooth than rough. Despite a great deal of rain while I was there, there was very little slop. Over dinner tonight the thought of turning south and joining you sounded like a challenge- I bet it would be- but Rio sounds mo betta! Hope to see you further north- before Colorado. Suerte!

**javkap** · #7 12 Jun 2006

Hi
Sorry
I need to tell you than the bike season on the Patagonia is gone. Anyway some travelers was there on the winter. I saw some photos and I don’t want to be riding or camping on the next moths there…
Also I have a friend who move to Ushuaia year and ½ a go, sold his cute AT, bought a truck and convert his TA in a nice Quad and ride with tires with nails on winters….

From the cold but sunny BA
Javier…
www.dakarmotos.com

**StrollSouth** · #8 12 Jun 2006

Hi Javier,
I have seen your name come up from time to time on the the web and you are considered reliable and helpful to riders who need your services. I know our chances are not that great for making it to Tierra del Fuego but we will take it day by day and we may end up taking a ferry to and from Ushuaia. We have been on the road for 10 months and I hope our judgement has not become clouded.

On another topic...do you know of any bike dealers who would buy a couple of bikes?

Thanks for the pic, that may be a better idea!

**javkap** · #9 12 Jun 2006

Sorry guys but no one can register your bikes over Argentines laws, so no good chances, try to sell it to others travellers, always are some looking for that…
Take it easy
Be careful
CU in few weeks / moths in BA?
Saludos
Suerte
Javier..
www.dakarmotos.com

another nice shot from the Ushuaia quad:

**StrollSouth** · #10 12 Jun 2006

Javier,
Is that you going in deep? We figured selling the bikes at the end of our trip might be a long shot, will try a private party, so shipping the bikes to the U.S or England is our Plan B. I will search the HUBB for shipping companies but can you recommend anyone? We have definit plans on coming to B.A. and will let you know when we get there.

Honest news is better than good news.

**Grant Johnson** · #11 12 Jun 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrollSouth

Javier,
...so shipping the bikes to the U.S or England is our Plan B. I will search the HUBB for shipping companies but can you recommend anyone?

See the shipping section on the left menu - lots of info on shipping and hundreds - over 500

at last check - of shipments worldwide recorded by travellers.

**StrollSouth** · #12 14 Jun 2006

Grant,
I can´t count the number of times I have checked with your website to get information or to read about someone elses travels. I also like the new look and features of the site.
We are still headed south - at present in Los Angeles, Chile - and the weather remains cool with some rain. A glass or two of wine is a great warmer in the evening...

**hook** · #13 14 Jun 2006

Lynne and Tom, glad to hear you're plugging along! The parts for my bike won't be here until June 26 now- we hope. I might see you two in Buenos Aires after all. Are you planning to ride up to Iguacu before heading back to CO? I'll keep an eye on your progress. As for the warming affect of red wine, Chile and Argentina sure have us covered in that respect! Suerte, Dave.

**StrollSouth** · #14 18 Jun 2006

Hook,
We made our crossing yesterday going from Osorno, across Cardenal Samore Pass on highway 215. Rained the whole day and we hit snow at about 4,000 feet. Pass tops out at about 4300 so we only had about a mile of slushy roads. Most of the day was spent with temps in the upper 30's so we stopped at the first warm looking place, Villa La Angostura. Very much like Breckenridge with lots of upscale store and nice restaurants...without the high prices, as you know.
We are still thinking of heading south but that could change soon and we would then head to B.A. so may see you after all. What's up with your bike? Are you headed to Africa?

**hook** · #15 18 Jun 2006

Hey you two, glad to hear off-season travel is treating you well! Still waiting on the 26th for the parts. Once the bike is ready I'll be heading north for 3 weeks or so before returning to BA. The bike and I will then head to Capetown. Looks like we'll meet up at some point, hope so!

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