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buying a bike in Chile from a foreigner

Dear all,

I've plans to buy a bike in Chile and travel around for a while in South-America.
After reading several items its clear for me how to buy a bike in Chile from a Chilean.
But ............. even after reading all the items on this forum I still dont know how to buy (and sell) a bike in Chile from a foreigner.
Could anybody clearly explain this to me or show me where I can find this information.

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Hello .
if you want to buy a bike chile it is quite simple.
You need a RUT, which get a simple, need a Chilean resident as a representative and then to get the document can buy a new or used bike.
when you want to sell only you need to have all documentation of the bike in order.
if you need any advice just mail me and I'll help you pleasantly.
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JFirst need to understand that a foreigner buying a foreign bike in a foreigb country is generally illegal.
That said, many do it and most get away with it. Most.
Essential that the TVIP is still current and has plenty of time left on it so you can leave the country before it expires.
The current owner should do all the research to determine a procedure that has a good chance of succeeding. To focus his endeavours, you tell him you will pay 5% down and the rest once you are over the border AND into the next country with all vehicle paperwork legal and in your name back in the state/country of registration

The reason you will not find a xyz of buying a foreign vehicle is - apart from the minor problem of legality - because there are far too many variables to account for and also everyone has different amounts of risk they can handle.. Despite what the "she'll be right. Trust me!" will tell you, the risks are real and I have collected a few sob stories to prove it icluding documentation showing confiscation of a vehicle plus emails about two others, plus a long story about straighout fraud on the part of a seller and trust on the part of a buyer that took three months to sort out. That's why I suggest tipping the old caveat emptor upside down and putting most of the risk back on the seller where it belongs

BTW dont believe all you get told about buying a Chile registered bike eithe. There are a few people who have found that there are quite severe restrictions on getting across certain borders even when all the paperwork is supposedly in order.
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Thanks for your comment. Now I understand that there's no clear receipt for buying a foreign bike as a foreigner.
I can stop looking for this..........
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My Australian friend sold his KLR to a Polish guy in Argentina back in 2008. The more stamps in your passport the better imo.

My advice is to start out in Argentina and cross over to the Chilean border to get a new legitimate Chilean Temporary Import Permit that is in your name.

That is good advice about making sure that the seller is there at the time of the sale and willing to help you cross the border and get the legitimate paperwork. I wouldn't pay more then a deposit on the bike until you get the new paperwork.

You will need photoshop for the title and the temporary import permit. Photoshop your name and address and make a good color copy of the temporary import permit.

The most important thing about crossing the border to get your new legitimate paperwork is confidence.

I recommend crossing at a smaller border crossing. I am pretty sure that my friend crossed at the Mendoza border crossing which is a big one. In my experience, the less employees working there the better.

If you by chance get a Nazi agent who realizes what you guys are trying to pull off I would just admit to what you were trying to do. It should be a slap on the wrist punishment.
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Thanks for your comment. Now I understand that there's no clear receipt for buying a foreign bike as a foreigner.
I can stop looking for this..........
That wasn't intended to imply that it can't be done at all, but that you need to try and formulate a plan that will work in your situation. Xfiltrate, a long standing member here will tell you it is illegal and that it isn't smart to try it because there can be serious consequences. He is 100% correct, but most people haven't heard his warnings and just do it anyway and most have few problems.
A few points to consider.
Many vehicles getting around in sa have invalid or expired registrations. Photoshopped documentation is rife4. That means any liability insurance you get is likely to be declared invalid if you have an accident and the frequent result of that is a long spell in the local prison.

Operating a vehicle under a poder from the legitimate owner is said to be the way to go, but there can be complications such as a country eg Peru refusing you entry. Very hard to drive the Americas if you cant get into Peru.

Ideally, while a poder is useful at the beginning, the only safe way to own a vehicle in the longer term is to obtain legal ownership and registration in your name back in the country of origin and sometimes that isn't possible..British Columbia is said to be one such. This is one part of the procedure where nationality of buyer, seller and vehicle really matters and why there can't be a universal process. For instance a German might be able to get ownership of a German vehicle by remote control, but I doubt whether there is any practical way for a South African to get legal ownership of a German vehicle.

Most of these can be overcome, but know that you will be spending money buying a vehicle under conditions you would run a mile from back home, so don't spend any money that you can't afford to lose.
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So , the ideal is to buy un used Chilean registration moto from a shop ?
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