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Plymouth - Dakar

http://drewsweb.net/pdc04/default.htm

Check this out. It looks fun

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How was solved the problem to enter Senegal?

Any one knows?

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Good question.

Last year was before the new rules, this year I don't know. I asked about 3 months ago, but never had a reply.

I reckon they are going on the 'suck it and see' principle.

Best not to be anywhere near Rosso on about the 5-8th Jan!!!!

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I had a feeling that the new rules may have been introduced (or rushed through) because of last year's 'Rosso Riot'.

It's available in dvd soon.

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Hey Chris - what was the 'Rosso Riot'?


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The Rally was being dicked about by the Senegalese at Rosso for various payments (as most travellers are) and after a few hours decided to burst out of the compound they had been coralled in and tore off down the road to Dakar singing "This is the Self Preservation Society.."
If they get into Senegal, you can imagine the sort of welcome they are going to get this time...

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They have made arrangments with the Senegal Embassy in London to get through , wheather this works at Rosso is another thing , most people are going around the other way .
I think Rosso should be compulsary in the spirit of the rally . We had a ball last year though Northern Senegal was a bit like Missippys Burning in reverse .
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hi

Last year, when did the rally enter Senegal?

I did some readings about the it. Were they the responsible for the "5 year law"? :-)

And this year how are they planning to enter? Probably not in rosso!

Please send news about the progress.




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Probably they'll try to cross the Senegal border at Diama.
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Officially the convoy is not available in Diama, it may have changed though. I only know of one group of 7 cars who passed about 5 weeks ago and they paid €100 per car which was a bit over the top.
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any more news?

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I received a message from R10, travelling to Mauritania, who spotted the convoy. They shipped on 23/12 to Morocco (via Cebta) and should be now in Mauritania, near Nouakchott.


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Hi
We went on the Plymouth-dakar,
we were in group three that went parallel to the real paris-dakar.

we where in two rusting Rover Montego estates they both perfomed very well in the desert and on the beach's, as most people know the desert crossing part is quite easy if you have any sort of off-road experience.

we also build Paris-dakar cars and our entry this year came 28th overall. My wife and I do a lot of travelling in our 4x4 truck and also as racers in varies desert races so we see many sides to border crossing ( easy and hard)

you can see some strange pictures at

http://plymouthdakar.mysite.freeserv...e/pictures.htm

As for the senegal crossing there was much talk about the problems we where going to get at the border, When our group assembled at Marakech there was a huge drunken argument about the problem, one of the guys had phoned home and had been informed that the first group of 30 cars had all been charged 300 euros each, then had there passports confiscated while they where escorted to the Gambian border.
This also happened to group two, who where allowed to stay overnight at Zebrabar campsite in Senegal,I was told they paid £650 approx for the group guide/customs offical.

our group split up before the border ,Myself and my brother in the two montego's along with two other cars decided we would have a shot at the Rosso border ( all the others had done Diama) we ended up with another 6 cars with us mainly the kids (as we called them) on/or the stupid teams.

we managed to talk our way into senegal across the ferry. we paid only 50 euro to one guide ( for all the cars).

and paid the fees as per chris scotts account on the western sahara pdf file.

we entered into senegal without a carnet or a passez laiser and were free to roam, we went to st Louis then to Dakar to watch the Paris-Dakar finish.
The rest of group three went direct to diama and where kept waiting for 5 hours, then got charged 95 euro per car and escorted to the zebrabar campsite where they stayed without passports until the monday morning,

The guide sent with them was not in uniform and did not know his way to Gambia, he got lost many times, he also tagged some german trucks onto the convoy which slowed it down a great deal, general opinion was that the guide was just the brother/friend of the main man at Diama scamming some more money of everyone.

we continued direct from Dakar to the Gambia in smaller groups and had no problems, the customs on the senagales side of the gambian border gave no problems and it was nice to be greated with 'welcome to the Gambia sir' by the gambian border police.

we entered Senagal on the 17 Jan and left on the 20th Jan 2004


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